PANDA, I agree 1000% what you said. But delivering facts to liberals is like speaking martin to them. AND, when they finally get together about what you said, IT WON'T LOOK LIKE ANYTING YOU SAID!!! They love living in thier fantasy feel good world and will DESTROY anything that threatens said fantasy. The LIV (low information voters) will follow them goose stepping all the way to the handout line!! I don't know the asnwer, it does seem that those who want to take,take,take are pretty close in numbers to those who produce. I fear for our once GREAT country that said, education, get a job, marry and get a home and start a family.