once again, I have no problem with the idea of loving sinners. That's what we are called to do. Jesus doesn't call us to condemn people, but to love them. But He doesnt tell us to love, excuse, or condone sin. The issue in this discussion thread, and among multitudes today, is that God loves us, not matter what our hang-up or sin happens to be. It's true, His love is unconditional ("God so loved the world..") in one sense, but entirely conditional in another ('whosoever believeth in Him should not perish'). True 'belief' is much more than intellectual 'assent'; it is taking our cross daily, dying to our selves and our sin, and following Jesus. That is where so MANY are MISSING IT today!