Ok, give me dozens of passages that prove your point. Like you wrote Jeremiah 1:5, I'm sure you can write the other passages without taking up much space. I'm willing to keep an open mind, but all you have done is call me names. I read Jeremiah 1:5, Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. When I read this passage a few years ago it did make me think about Leviticus 17:14 and what that meant. I felt Jeremiah didn't really explain when life begins. I would love to read some of the passages you talk about, but, I have to admit Leviticus 17:14 really sticks with me. Yes the womb is a sanctuary, I believe it happens after the fetus is surviving on it's own blood. Other than when life begins, our views seem to be the same.