an objective person could say the same about liberals and their anti-gun nuttery. The "real" debate is that if you are looking at hard evidence on crime there is no evidence to show that a gun has ever commited a crime. People do however and the crimes that are unpredictable are ones of passion. The reason we jump up here and defend gun rights is because liberals are all too proud of taking advantage of tragedies to limit rights. You dont like the patriot act and neither do i. it was passed after a tragedy and limited our rights. That argument is called: you are a hyppocrit. Token regard? Liberals and Concservatives are loving parents, dont assume otherwise because its convinient for you.