Why don't you answer your own question first. People like you believe in "livable wages" but a livable wage is differnet to everyone. I may only need X but you probably need 2X. You pay a worker what the market will allow. If someone over in China, India or a right to work state can make it cheaper, then so it will be. Either the company makes money or it goes out of business. Better to have a job make less thanhave no job at all. Unions have to get over thinking they can demand whatever they want now that we are a global economy where there are people actually willing to work.