Neither of these guys understand the important details of our gun ownership system. The don't know bazooka from rifle or semi auto from auto. If Belcher had a history of assault or domestic abuse he was not!!!! a legal gun owner. Laws are made not just to discourage crime, which thy have never completely succeeded at, but also to clarify when punishment is appropriate. The constant banter that we need to strengthen laws until they discourage the unwanted behavior 100% is juvenile and idiotic. And to lump legal owners with unlawful owners is not done in any other legal area. In other words since some people don't pay child support we are going to outlaw divorce?