flamingfool, almost every loud obnoxious ignoramus has a valid point somewhere. you are no exception. you claim ss is not a ponzi scheme. technically, you are right. a ponzi scheme must deceive its victims, play on their greed and stupidity, and get them to VOLUNTARILY submit their assets to larceny. that is not so of ss. ss is not voluntary, but is demanded by the bully with the armed thugs, handcuffs, prisons, courts, etc. ss is much, much more than a ponzi scheme. it is armed robbery.