gtanv's comments are not cogent. The liberals will offer spending cuts years in the future for tax hikes today--a deal they will never honor. There is no need to offer anything to Obama and his mob. Spending bills must originate in the House. Just appropriate less money and if the Senate does not concur, then we will have a real crisis, one Conservatives can use to get some spending cuts--ethanol subsidy? corporate welfare? foreign aid? All of these are possibilities. It would help if we could dump wimps like Mc Cain, Graham and Chambliss at the next opportunity.