Actually I grew up with socialized medicine available to me as a military brat. Fortunately my father was paid enough to afford PRIVATE medical care for me when I got sick. Yes, the Tea Party idiot is mistaken; the shabby treatment afforded veterans is VA hospitals and Indians in the Indian Health Care System are excellent arguments against government run health care. So is the ever shifting medical care furnished military retirees. The funding of Obamacare by "savings" in Mediscare will come from similar reductions and rationing of care. The hell of it is that if one can afford better care, Obamacare wants 40% of your payments as an excise tax for being able to afford it.