"Did you forget about the Iraqis that Saddam marched to their death off of walls, the torture chambers that included electric rods on body parts and medieval spike boxes; how about the Kurds who were gassed to death in masses......and WMD's were not lies....intel might not have been good, but they were not lies." -------------------- Spare me your self-righteous sanctimony. We didn't go in there to "liberate" the Iraqis, nor do you care about the Iraqis like you pretend you do. Stop being naive - wars are never fought for humanitarian reasons. Heck - the Iraqis were better off under Saddam than they are now.