Don't waste your breath. "tjordan" has been, in KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov's terms, "demoralized." That's the first of four stages of the KGB's process of brainwashing a nation. In Bezmenov's words, "once a person has been demoralized, they will belive nothing no matter what kind of proof or evidence you have." According to Bezmenov, demoralization of the United States population was mostly complete in1985. He said it was amazing how fast it was accomplished. See: Bezmenov on demoralization in America - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlpODYhnPEo.