You have to be "terminally" ignorant to defend either the Times or the Clown in the WH . . . the Great Crash of 08 was the result of decades of "Free" Mortgages . . . Global Elites vacuumed 1/2 a Trillion out of the NY Banks before lunch on Sept 8/08 . . . the the Great Unwashed elected Liar in Chief . . . and he spent 6 Trillion dollars, giving it to his Banker and Union Friends . . . making sure America would linger in Recession for years. I predicted todays America 4 1/2 years ago . . . it was east . . . you can always trust a Socialist/Marxist . . . to be a Socialist/Marxist . . . never works out, but the dummies keep trying . . . my question is . . . are these folks sane?