Cal you are right on the mark. Our country is split with people that have two different mind sets. From the election map it was easy to see which states have the entitlement mind set verses those who feel they are responsible for their own lives. I think there needs to be an experiment where a state like Texas secedes from the union so they don't have to support a failed U.S. Government and use their resources to produce jobs in their own state. First of all, they wouldn't start out with a 16 trillion dollar deficit. They could adopt their own monetary system that isn't subject to collapse like the American dollar which has been devalued to almost worthlessness. That would be energy independent almost overnight. Any takers?