Ryan clearly won big. He had the facts and figures and presented then clearly and succinctly.
Biden, on the other hand, spewed b.s. and blarney as if the old boyo had had a few too many at the pub in Kilarney.
As far as saving Medicare, the govt. can quit the payroll deductions, rebate whatever it can of what has been paid in by the taxpayers,...AND LET THE DAMN THING DIE!