Yeah, but Mitchell is right about how the argument is stated, because to state it in terms of a debt problem, lets the Democrats seem reasonable and willing to compromise with their always willing offer to raise taxes. If the Republican then responds that he does not want to raise taxes, he seems to favor the rich and appears not willing to compromise. We of course can see thorough this. The problem though are the brain dead independents, who "just want everyone to get along and compromise" They then vote for the willing to compromise and less extreme Democrat and taxes and spending both go up again and again. It also makes it difficult to convert any brain dead Liberals to our cause for the same reason.