Anominus: ""Living free" according to nature would justify killing your neighbors for their territory or for their meat. Obviously, the founders found natural rights / law to be inadequate."
This is what disturbs me most about cristians. Without their god, it becomes okay to kill people, and sometimes with their god. For some reason, humans don't have the ability to agree on rules themselves. Rules like: don't kill people, don't oppress people, don't steal things. . .