There used to be in America arguments between socialists and free entrerprise idealists, but now we have the capitalists trained to bribe and extort their way to city, state, and federal government subsidies. Katie you may have mentioned that stadiums do provide a lesson in subsidies. The subsidized stadium does not lead to better sports teams, but only to more money for the subsidized personnel who do not lower ticket prices as a rseult of the subsidies. That little boys and girls is how subsidizing agriculture and health care and environmentally friendly alternative energy companies always work. Subisdies simply reduce private inititiative to hold down production costs. Little boys and girls, Katie understands economics.