hmm, okay, if you are looking at it from that perspective, that does make a bit more sense. but i guess i would ask you to consider something, this maybe a "no go" within your faith, if so, no offence meant, but what is it about those values that has been important in creating the society you want? was it the values of understanding, love, compassion and inclusion, or was it the ability to restrict gay peoples right to use the word marriage to describe permanant loving relationships which are in turn recognised by the state? it seems to me (although as an outsider) that the values that matter do not conflict with this at all. The only conflict seems to come from cultural views held by those who were involved in the early church.