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BREAKING: Massive Voter Fraud in St. Lucie County, Florida

upsidedownjack Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 8:40 AM
Voter Fraud? There is NO VOTER FRAUD! Just keep moving Comrade's. 11-6-2012 The date that the Republic of the United States of America went from a Republic to a Socialist Country! A country that was Founded on/with/blood of FREEMEN, And Died, with the VOTE of "men" just wanting FREE! May God Forgive them for they do not understand what they do! For surely, I will not. I took an oath to protect The United States of America. From ALL Enemies from WITH IN and from with out! Look out, there are many of us. We will Never Forget! God Bless AMERICA!
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 8:52 AM
You are right, there is no voter fraud. At least, not in this article. I don't know why it's still up as it has been posted as such for hours.

Follow the links, from Heather's article to the blogger who was her source. And then from the source to the raw data

There, you'll see that the blogger compared "cards cast", not votes, to registered voters. In my precinct, we had two cards per voter.

Scroll down, a couple of pages, you'll see actual votes. They are completely in line. About 75% of registered voters showing up in the precincts. No overvoting.

This article should come down. It embarrasses TH and diminishes the credibility of real voter fraud complaints.
Georock Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:20 AM
I think Allen West knows the score better than you or I do.
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:26 AM
He probably knows about a problem. But, it isn't this one. Check the numbers yourself. Not a single contest listed in that document had more votes than registered voters.

Heather should have done more homework on this one.
usmcpgw Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:31 AM
two cards per voter......

vote early, vote often

oops that is voter fraud

whats that? you neede two cards? why?
snappercat Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:46 AM
You can't convince blue OR red Kool aid drinkers of the truth....
snappercat Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:47 AM
Because there were so many things to vote on. Think PAGES = CARDS
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:51 AM
USCMPGW: There are two cards because there is so much stuff to vote on. Some positions, like school board members, have a lot of candidates taking up a lot of space on the card. The type is big so people don't strain to read it. There are explanations of the propositions.
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 9:53 AM
Snappercat: I'm blown away by how people would rather question the integrity of someone's statement before they check the facts. How intellectually lazy is that.

The numbers are right there, two clicks away, to look at. Scroll down. Look at the votes. You see that Heather and the original blogger got it wrong.

I don't get it.
snappercat Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 10:08 AM
The most disturbing thing is that this article has been up for maybe 24 hours. NO ONE ELSE is running with this - not drudge or breitbart or pundit or dc or national review - NO ONE. What is going on here at townhall is disgraceful. And it is very worrisome that when you point out the fallacy you get hate mail back. (Did you see my back and forth with carol---- below?
lastinline Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 11:02 AM
I wasted many minutes trying to fit my reply to your message into the allotted space only to see it disappear before I could finish. I'm not going to go through that again, so I'll only address your comments about "diminishing credibility". I only wish that that were true. I used to think that way, but I have come to the conclusion that nobody cares. The truth is, both sides lie incessantly. but there are never any consequences. Lying (mostly by concealing the WHOLE truth) works. There are no penalties.
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 1:06 PM
lastinline: I am sad to say that, in my heart, I know you are right. The echo chamber is so loud, it drowns out read data.

Still people like you should at least try to keep the full range of facts in front. Eventually, people will get it.

Thank you for your comment!
Always Learning Wrote: Nov 11, 2012 1:06 PM
I meant "real" data. I have to learn to proofread.

On Tuesday only one precinct had less than 113% turnout. “The Unofficial vote count is 175,554 registered voters 247,713 vote cards cast (141.10% ). The National SEAL Museum, a St. Lucie county polling place, had 158.85% voter turn out, the highest in the county.”

The Supervisor of Elections, Gertrude Walker, had this to say concerning the 141% voter turnout: “They may have had something like that in Palm Beach County, but we’ve never seen that here.”

So maybe Allen West wasn’t crazy to ask for a lock-down on the ballot boxes and machines in this county. According to...

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