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Hispanics Favor Democrats, But Didn't Decide Election

TunTavern Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:33 PM
Back in the 90's, California passed Prop 187. This prop was a very harsh anti-immigration law that helped stir up a lot of racism. The GOP has never recovered here. And some will say, "Well, California is liberal anyway." But that wasn't always the case. California used to be purple; it gave America Ronald Reagan after all...and the California voters APPROVED the ant-immigration law by a huge margin. (It was later struck down by the courts.) Anyway, that immigration law was the end for the GOP in California. Republican voters now account for less than 30 percent of the electorate. The scary thing for the GOP is that the same will soon be true for Texas and Arizona. And how can a GOP candidate for president EVER win without Texas?
Conservative abroad Wrote: Dec 10, 2012 9:05 PM
Like you said, Prop 187 won by a large margin and also Gray Davis won easily championing it. It was only later that it was struck down by the typical Liberal tactic of using Liberal Judges to overrule the will of the people. It wasn't even appealed because of media / Liberal hysteria and the Republican leadership ran away from thier own voters with thier tail between thier legs and wouldn't support it. That's when they lost big time. You aren't being consistant. You insinuate that the GOP never recovered because they suported Prop 187, but then you say Prop 187 was hugely popular. The GOP lost because they ran away from it just like they keep doing on a national level.
kfisher927 Wrote: Nov 29, 2012 12:40 AM
TunTavern,

It took me just a few minutes to explain to my Cousin from Chihuhua, Chih, Mexico why Prop 187 was not about racism. A Ultra Liberal judge was wrongly permitted to knock down the will of the people of California. No where in our Constitution is the Judiciary granted dictatorial powers. We must return to the Constitution of we will FALL and are FALLING NOW!

The RINO Firestone tried that lie about "Divisive Issues" at a Replublican meeting I attended, and I was easily able to show his hypocisy for what it was by pointing out how easy it was for me to explain how Prop 187 was not a racist issue to my visiting cousin from MEXICO! The GOP needs to reach out to the Hispanic and other minorities better, but never pander to...
Robert 206 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:42 PM
Well, I guess we should just lie down and take it. It's payback time! We threw them out of Texas, California and the Southwest and now they're back! Birthrates are the defining dynamic in the world today! Europe is experiencing that with the Muslim invasion and it's happening to us with South American and Central American states dumping their excess population on us. What's next, bullfights in Cowboy Stadium?
TunTavern Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 5:05 PM
"What's next, bullfights in Cowboy Stadium?"

As opposed to drunk, obese rednecks watching a monster truck rally?
Sure, why not?
Conservative abroad Wrote: Dec 10, 2012 9:06 PM
They don't torture and kill innocent animals at a monster truck rally.
togubin Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:39 PM
Tun, if securing our borders is deemed "anti-hispanic" I don't know what to do.

I want them secured, particularly because of the ease in which al-quaeda can sneak over. I don't want illegal immigrants here, regardless of where they come from.

We tried amnesty once. It didn't work. It just attracted more illegal immigrants.

TunTavern Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:59 PM
It's not just the measures themselves. It's the racist rhetoric that comes with them. An anti-immigration law is introduced, right? Well, that starts the debate...and once the public begins debating it, the racists come forward and start spewing their nonsense.
The racist element will be small, but they're very LOUD. And of course the media is going to make sure that it is the most inflammatory voices that are heard.
Robert 206 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 5:00 PM
Yes, I agree and they should learn English and melt into the population and become Americans like millions of European immigrants did over many decades.We should not have to adapt to them. They came here and they have the responsibility to meld into the once great "Melting Pot" and perhaps learn a little about our Constitution and our hard-won freedoms that Obama wants to destroy with their help!
Robert 206 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 5:06 PM
Read your American history. The Irish and Italian immigrants went through the same harsh experiences and guess what they succeeded and elected presidents from their own ranks: John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan!
gungy Wrote: Nov 28, 2012 3:23 PM
TunTavern, Kim Jong Un couldn't ask for a more blindly loyal supporter and acolyte than Obama has in you. Try North Korea, I think you'd be very happy there. And btw, I know very few Marines who act like such little resentment chip-on-shoulder poor-little-me offense w hores like you seem to. Get over yourself.
After moments of panic in the immediate aftermath of Mitt Romney's defeat, some Republicans and conservatives are regaining their equilibrium on the issue of what the GOP should do about immigration and the Hispanic vote.

They're looking at key questions from the campaign, like how much of Barack Obama's victory was attributable to Hispanic support. They're also looking at the Hispanic electorate itself to see how big a role immigration, versus a wide range of other issues, played in voting decisions. The goal, of course, is to win a larger portion of the Hispanic vote, but first to take...