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Truth001 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 2:33 PM
Ransom said "the Bush Tax cuts worked" Bush's first term the economy shed 913,000 private sector jobs! 913,000! The only thing that saved Bush’s first term from being a complete economic disaster, in terms of employment, was robust public sector growth: The economy added 900,000 government jobs. One wonders: Without the massive growth in the public sector during Bush’s first term, would he have been reelected
tkontos Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 8:21 PM
In June 2004, then state Senator Barack Obama attacked George W. Bush's job creation record.
That's 8 years ago to the month compared to today's job numbers.
How many jobs did the economy created in June of 2004? 112,000. This was actually down from previous months. It's actually impressive considering the unemployment rate was...5.6% and had been for much of that year (it's harder to get big job growth when unemployment is relatively low).
Obama actually said that today's awful job numbers are "a step in the right direction".
So to recap...112,000 jobs and 5.6% unemployment was killing the middle class but 80,000 jobs (when there's clearly a job shortage) and 8.2% unemployment is "a step in the right direction".
Steve539 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 8:18 PM
Truth001, glad you are posting here. I was afraid you and DoctorRoy were on vacation or something. Let me bring up a couple of items for your perusal. Bush took office late Jan 2001 and by March we had entered into a recession (normal economic definition of a recession - THANKS CLINTON). Secondly, 9/11/2001 came along about 5 1/2 months later and this consumed an enormous amount of time and effort. Do you, in your liberal mindset, think that either of these factors may have affected the job loss you speak of in Bush's first term? Just think, had Bush not been reelected for a second term and Obama followed him, we would be in our 4th year of recovery from "all things Obama". Now that is a good thought. Cont'd below:

Steve539 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 8:22 PM
In your next post, would you justify anything Obama has done for our country. No, I don't mean what he has done "to" our country.

Truth001 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 10:25 PM
I will give a list of Obama accomplishments, but first I would like to hear from the conservatives relative to what Romney would do different to improve the economy. I've read his tax proposal and it has more holes in it than swiss cheese. Why should I vote for a Candidate that seemingly has no plan?
gsw Wrote: Sep 10, 2012 1:51 AM
You most assurdaly should not. That we all can agree on. No one in their right mind should vote for Obama. He has no plan and no plan to get one. Doesn't know how.Romeny has a 5 point plan and intends to build the oil pipeline, authorize renewed oilproduction of shale oil, stop the moratorium on Gulf oil production, open Alaska up for more oil exploration, economy should start rebounding heathly around January 2013 - after Obama is fired in November 2012
inkling_revival Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 5:13 PM
"Bush's first term the economy shed 913,000 private sector jobs! 913,000!"

(1) What's this got to do with the Bush tax cuts? The tax cuts, thanks to D intransigence in the Senate, were back-end loaded to take effect in 2004, 2005, and 2006. They had zero impact in Bush's first term. Get a clue.

(2) The economic losses in Bush's first term were due to the Internet bubble bursting, the Enron/Worldcom/auditing scandal, and 9/11. Which of those were due to Bush's policies? (Answer: nada.)
Truth001 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 7:04 PM
During his first term (2001–2005), he sought and obtained Congressional approval for tax cuts: the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001, the Job Creation and Worker Assistance Act of 2002 and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003. These acts decreased all tax rates, reduced the capital gains tax, increased the child tax credit and eliminated the so-called "marriage penalty", and were set to expire in 2011.

Back end loaded is your term nobody elses. However there was bump in employment mid 2000 mainly in construction but no evidence supply side economics or the better known as the Bush Tax Cuts having anything to do with it. The real possibility is an over inflated housing market.
Steve539 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 8:40 PM
Truth001, try reading a book other than those written by liberals when you start to talk about the housing bubble and the eventual catastrophe it caused in our economy. One I would recommend is Dr. Thomas Sowell's "The Housing Boom And Bust". He fingers them all - Clinton, Janet Reno, Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Chris Dodd, Bush, Congress (Rep. & Dems), etc. Additionally, read with an open mind anything that Ransom writes because he is brilliant and always gives facts. He is trying to help you liberals.
Truth001 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 10:11 PM
Believe it or not I do read. I read both conservative and liberal material. I wouldn't hang around this site and take the abuse from all the conservative in the room, including Ransom, if I was not interest in your opinions. I have not read "Housing Boom and Bust"I'll take a look at it. Thanks...
gsw Wrote: Sep 10, 2012 1:45 AM
ClassicalTeacher Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 5:07 PM
Only if his skin were black...
rickmcq Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 3:10 PM
Ransom ALSO write, "That’s why Obama has extended them more times than he has passed a budget. That’s why Bill Clinton has advocated for them. That’s why the CBO has warned against allowing the tax cuts to expire." That also wrong, is it?
Truth001 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 4:27 PM
Remember what Clinton, Obama, CBO are saying. They are advocating for the continuance for any income below $250K. Now Clinton did say at first to extent the cuts 6 months or so to get past some of the other items coming up 1/1/2013. He has since changed his opinion.
rickmcq Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 5:13 PM
So, as usual, 001, Clinton went further wrong as he went along. Without Gingrich's help on the economy and McCain's help on the impeachment conviction, Clinton's Presidency would have been less successful and shorter.
genya2 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 3:00 PM
Floyd35 Wrote: Sep 09, 2012 3:18 PM
The Truth is a foreign word to a Liberal or a Democrat. They never hear it form their leaders therefore they don't know what it confuses them...

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