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Petraeus Betrayed his Country Before he Betrayed his Wife

True Conservative! Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 3:44 PM
Oh, please, this is just baloney! We won the war in the first three weeks [if you don't think so just ask Saddam ... oh wait ...]! We won the peace after the surge destroyed the outside jihadists trying to foment terrorism. We lost the wind down when the current president decided to just withdraw. Still, we need to break the will of the fanatics to continue their fanaticism and they won't stop until that is done! They will learn from no less a lesson!
Andy544 Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 4:10 PM
complete hogwash...or brain-wash...certainly clueless...Fact is, we could 'occupy' and pour money and men into the black, sucking hole that is Iraq until hades 'freezes over' and it would not change the essential nature of what that country is....which is, a keg of dynamite sitting on a cart being pulled 2-3 different directions (Shiites, Sunnis, Kurds). The so-called 'peace' obtained after the 'surge' was 'bought' by hundreds of millions of 'pay-off bribes' to the Sunni war lords, who found it convenient to throw the outside influences 'under the bus'.There is NO peace in that country. We toppled a 3rd-world dictator and inherited an un-holy mess!
True Conservative! Wrote: Nov 15, 2012 6:46 PM
Even Bush was going to dramatically reduce our troop level there ... how is keeping a few troops and bases any different from say Germany and Japan where we STILL have those 67 years after WWII? Sure Iraq has it's problems; but they were manageable ... now, it'll probably deteriorate into another fanatic-run hellhole. Not nearly clear that would happen with just a light footprint to keep the lid on!

Was David Petraeus as great a general as the write-ups of his downfall routinely claim? This is a provocative question that I will begin to answer with another question: Did America prevail in the Iraq War? I suspect few would say "yes" and believe it, which is no reflection on the valor and sacrifice of the American and allied troops who fought there. On the contrary, it was the vaunted strategy of the two-step Petraeus "surge" that was the blueprint of failure.

While U.S. troops carried out Part One successfully by fighting to establish basic security, the "trust" and "political reconciliation" that...