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Did Ahmedinejad Change His Mind About Eliminating Israel?

Troglodite Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 5:48 PM
My guess would be that the Iranians who are sufficiently fanatical and crazy are used (and treated as expendable) by the regime, but that they are not influential players within the regime itself. (This is, of course, the usual--though admittedly not invariable--pattern that we see in politics.) The IRGC poohbahs would not be where they are if they were suicidal. If they are not suicidal, however, then they are deterrable. A pre-emptive war with Iran would be so expensive and messy that the onus should be on the pro-war camp to make the case that deterrence is too risky and that war is the preferable policy. So far, that case has not been made.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 10:13 PM
a preemptive strike on Iran's nuclear facilities and resultant "war" would hardly be as expensive and "messy" as an EMP attack on the US by Iran,or a nuclear detonation in NYC. Especially in the loss of US citizens.

also,the IRGC is hardly "deterred" or "deterrable". they are a major source of trouble around the world.
They also supply weapons and explosives to those wreaking havoc on US troops in Afghanistan.

You folks are willfully blind. you're stuck on this "US is the bad guy" meme.
Jay Wye Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 10:16 PM
for an example,look at what the 9-11 attacks did to the US economy.
only the fact that "progressives" have given hope and comfort to the enemy and drawn out the Afghan war while losing ground makes it's expense so high.
Ryan_M Wrote: Feb 06, 2013 8:48 PM
Trog,

It is funny to see that some of these same people who holler the loudest for war with Iran are the same ones who write elsewhere that we are bankrupt and have to cut spending.

There's a disconnect here with them. If we're bankrupt, how is it we have a trillion or so dollars laying around for a war with Iran? At the end I conclude that they really don't object to spending, only on what the money is spent on and this makes them no different from the liberals.
In an interview published today in Al-Ahram, a state-run Egyptian newspaper, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Iran is already a nuclear state but has no interest in attacking Israel because the weapons are “defensive.” On the second day of his trip to Egypt, Ahmadinejad warned against an Israeli preemptive strike on Iranian nuclear facilities, saying such a strike would result in severe consequences for the “Zionists.” Ahmadinejad continued on to say that “from now on the world should treat Iran as a nuclear state” and addressed Iran’s latest technological advancements:
“They want Iran to go back to what it was...