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Lincoln Re-Examined

TooTired Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 3:12 PM
"Slavery was ending anyway????" Seriously? If I were a slave, it couldn't end any too soon. Should have ended even sooner....no, shouldn't have started in the first place. (And yes, I know that Africans sold them, and this does not excuse people who trafficked in slavery.) Have any of you throwing stones at Lincoln thought seriously of the horrors associated with slavery? Having a child sold to another owner, never to be seen again? I'm sorry, but whatever abuses Lincoln committed, they pale in comparison with the wretched state of affairs when human beings are owned.
RW6 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 4:09 PM
Then make the southern slaveowners whole for property they LEGALLY PURCHASED. Slavery ends, the south has the $ to rebuild its economy, and 600,000 don't die.
charlesthehammer Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 4:06 PM
What do you call the dependency on the government now? Is it not a form of slavery, with government as to master?
rickmcq Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 3:30 PM
Slavery was terrible; it should not have started, and our nation is still paying for it.

"Whatever abuses Lincoln committed" should not be forgotten and glossed over. Also, a full understanding of the conflict requires a full examination of the then-current circumstances. It in no way supports or glorifies slavery to point out that Lincoln changed his view and statements about slavery or that he was not the one dimensional image often portrayed in public media.
Marek3 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 3:19 PM
Too, to me Slavery is equal to Murder in almost all things, with obvious exception that a Slave has a HOPE while Murder doesn't.

So yeah , I am fully aware the horror of it, and if there was any way I would argue that any and all Slave owners should in turn be enslaved; so they could understand the terror that they made.

However, that doesn't excuse the evil that is the large Federal Government. We are in the mess we are today precisely due to Lincoln assumption of illegal powers. The millions of poverty of today, and the virtual slavery of our inner cities, are also a direct result of this.

So while I agree with you 100% as to the moral degeneration that Slavery is, that doesn't automatically make Lincoln right.
Dreadnaught011 Wrote: Nov 30, 2012 10:39 PM

How about assassinating Lincoln? Did that get Americans a better shake? His whole family should've been murdered, so you pissants would feel satisfied.
hboring Wrote: Jan 04, 2013 2:21 PM
Booth did the South no favor. If Lincoln had lived, Reconstruction would have healed the wounds left by the war, rather than exacerbating those wounds.
Every schoolchild with enough smarts and curiosity to get beyond the latest video game of "Call of Duty" ought to go see "Lincoln," the movie, and check out the references and his own attention span. It requires patience, but it shows through dramatic action how a self-taught rustic from the deep backwoods had the emotional and intellectual discipline to overcome poverty and grow up to be a president to rank among the greatest.

This is not about the American Dream or a Horatio Alger story. (Does anybody remember him?) Nor is it mythmaking. It's made of sterner stuff than that....
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