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Tom299 Wrote: Jun 20, 2012 12:25 PM
I yeld to no one in my admiration for Thomas Sowell (or my distaste for Obama), but I think TS is a bit off the market in citing charismatic figures that have been disasterous. I cite but one such individual to make my case: Ronald Reagen. Certainly his charisma played a big part in his successes.
The Teleprompter Speaks Wrote: Jun 20, 2012 5:28 PM
Reagan had more than charisma. Not all leaders with charisma are evil or bad leaders. Some, like Clinton, have not much else but charisma.

Obama doesn't really have charisma. It's a myth created by the libs who looked at him and saw a messiah. Obama has a smug, grating and condescending personality.
True Conservative! Wrote: Jun 20, 2012 2:32 PM
One counter example does not refute the clear trend!
Darkness Fish Wrote: Jun 20, 2012 1:05 PM
Your point is well taken, but the vast majority of the charasmatic leasters of the 20th century brought death and destruction upon their followers/electorate/etc. Reagan was the only (or one of only a few) charasmatic leader(s) in the 20th century for whom this was NOT true (contrary to the picture the left paints of him)
rightmostofthetime Wrote: Jun 20, 2012 12:46 PM
True, but there's a big difference. Reagan had charisma AND a solid foundation of conservative principles. All Obama has is charisma. (And here I'm just assuming Obama still has charisma for many people. I saw it in his convention speech in 2004, but I'm so jaded about him now that I fail to see any charisma.)

Random thoughts on the passing scene:

Many people may have voted for Barack Obama in 2008 because of his charisma. But anyone familiar with the disastrous track record of charismatic political leaders around the world in the 20th century should have run for the hills when they encountered a politician with charisma.

What is scarier than any particular political policy or issue is the widespread tendency to treat political issues as personal contests in talking points -- competitive skill in fencing with words -- rather than as serious attempts to find out what the facts are and what the options are.