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Remember, Beckel's highest pinnacle of fame was managing the POTUS campaign of Fritz Mondale - who carried his home state only and lost ALL of the other 49. Listening to Beckel as an authority on anything is the exercise of a fool.
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Tom2309 Wrote: Dec 04, 2013 7:40 AM
When I was a kid, I saw Disney's animated fable, The Ant and the Grasshopper. The pure, simple logic of the tale was unmistakable. Your choices in life have consequences. The fable showed industrious ants laboring nonstop throughout warm weather months to find, harvest and store up food to survive the winter. As the Ants labored nonstop, the grasshopper rested, napped and lapped up the sun. In the end, the lazy grasshopper froze and starved when winter arrived. Today that tale would not be allowed to be broadcast to our nation's children because we would be told it was racist and mean-spirited. and sadly, were it to actually be broadcast, a significant percentage of our youth would be smiling at how the grasshopper was "getting over" while the foolish ants failed to drink up the sun.
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Tom2309 Wrote: Dec 04, 2013 7:34 AM
Obama's only proven occupational skill have been in getting his "next" job. But now that he has won the ultimate job, he has failed in every aspect of it. His community organizing experience is basically a big white hole in his resume. Who hired him? Who paid him? Did he get an annual review and if so, what metrics did he ever satisfy? Let's hear the names of the communities he "organized" and then examine that communities quality-of-life metrics to gauge Obama's positive contribution to the improvement of those communities. Look at the crime rate, types of crime prevalent, annual per household income before and after organizer Obama's tenure there, drug use among the population, incarceration rates and illegal birth rates. My guess is that nobody profited from Obama's presence and few in the community even knew he was there organizing them for any purpose - other than to groom himself for his next job.
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Tom2309 Wrote: Dec 04, 2013 6:52 AM
I always bristle when I hear one of those radio ads for some sort of new franchise business being promoted... "Buy one of our franchises and command the salary that you DESERVE." is what they always say. They tell total strangers out there in '"radio land" that each of them DESERVE whatever they want... PERIOD. I can only imagine how brain dead the people are who show up to buy one of those franchises... and imagine how quickly they find out that all they have proved to the world is that they deserve nothing.
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Tom2309 Wrote: Dec 04, 2013 6:41 AM
Goldi .. while your beliefs (whatever they are) appear to have been derived via some sort of adult indoctrination, most others here have beliefs that were borne out of the life experiences they had (including those while they were growing, developing children), and the usual life challenges they faced. When we, as developing, learning children, are confronted with day-to-day challenges to me overcome, few of us do so by seeking out the guidance and direction of adults before taking action to deal with those challenges. In my days as a kid, I found that my "beliefs" were formed by the steps I took to overcome challenges. The steps I took that worked were filed in my mind's "This Approach Worked" file while my failing efforts were filed in the "Failed Approach" file in my young, developing brain. So the beliefs I have now are the summation of the principles I applied to my own, particular life successfully while other principles (some of which may have worked for others) I discarded. So you see, your HuffPo Talking Point approach you use to interrupt meaningful, back-and-forth discussions here is a shallow one devoid of any purpose. One may arrive at "conservative" beliefs but that will usually be a destination arrived at only by the process of trial-and-error. Maybe you should examine how YOUR beliefs - the taking point ones were developed. To me they seem to have no more depth that the thickness of your computer screen while it is tuned into the home pages of the NY Times, Slate and HuffPo.
Well played rwelch. Well played. Reagan was a Democrat indeed - before his party abandoned its own core principles. I am a registered member of the GOP but I see the same thing happening to the GOP. So, it is now a matter for me to decide if I change my registration to something else. While I can relate to much of what Libertarians believe, other parts of their core beliefs are contrary to mine. But I may change my registration to Independent or Libertarian to at least have some small effect on GOP registration roles in the hope that the GOP will see that they they are breeding new, 21st Century Reagans - those who are feeling abandoned by a party they once could affiliate with. And I will offer too that I am so offended by many entrenched members of the GOP who condemn the Tea Party that I just may enroll and send them membership dues just in reaction to the RINOs I truly do detest almost as much as Liberal Dems.
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