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When 1,099 Felons Vote In A Race Won By 312 Ballots

tncdel Wrote: Aug 14, 2012 5:32 PM
Does Byron York mean "felons." Or "ex-felons?" Someone "in custody" is a felon, even if on probation. But once an offender has paid back his or her debt society, they are no longer felons, but EX-felons whose right to vote is restored under the Constitution. Permanent loss of the right to vote would be unconstitutional and violate the 5th Amendment's prohibition against "double jeopardy" and "summary punishment" in excess of what the sentencing stated. Additionally, to presume that someone having paid back their debt to society would be more likely to vote Democrat or be a Liberal is absurd.
NormRx Wrote: Sep 12, 2012 8:56 AM
"Permanent loss of the right to vote would be unconstitutional and violate the 5th Amendment's prohibition against "double jeopardy" and "summary punishment" in excess of what the sentencing stated."

A felon, or ex felon if you will, permanently looses his right to own a gun. Even though gun ownership is enshrined in the second amendment. So don't give me your nonsense about the fifth amendment and double jeopardy.
gsw Wrote: Aug 14, 2012 8:13 PM
No No the point is they don't come out of prison any better than they went in - which was of course -as a Democrat or liberal. Dems and libs don't change their spots just because they went to prison - as millions of felons have shown us. Plus you are incorrect.. Twelve states have laws that may permanently disqualify an individual convicted of a felony i.e. a felon, from voting And you are what? Shocked by this?!
Colonialgirl Wrote: Aug 14, 2012 7:26 PM
Only "absurd" thing around here is YOU . They SHOULD ban idiotic liberal trolls with Recto-Cranial insertion syndrome from voting; Their brain cells are all dead.
Anominus Wrote: Aug 14, 2012 6:36 PM
Negative. I think you are confusing convict / exconvict with felon / ex-felon. A felon is someone who has committed and been adjudged guilty of a felony class crime. After a guilty verdict, the only way to "not be a felon" is to have the records expunged. They lose their rights until a judge orders them restored, the timing for which varies according to state law. According to the Constitution, rights, including the right to life, can be permanently deprived so long as the accused receives due process.

Democrats / liberals have set the standard for "soft justice," with obvious benefits to criminals. Also, simple polls of prison populations have shown that the majority of inmates would indeed vote democrat. Presumption is unnecessary.
lengid69 Wrote: Aug 14, 2012 8:18 PM
You are right Anominus. Example; If you go to the Canadian border to inter into Canada, they will ask you if you have been convicted of a felony? If you have, no matter when, you can not drive your truck into that country. If you have been removed as a felon by a judge, your answer can be no when asked if you are a felon and you most certainly are until the judge remove you from criminal records as a felon. When you go for a job that same question will be asked and you had better tell the truth. However if you have overturned that's better then just being removed by a judge but that is rare. Ex convict only means you are no longer locked up in detention but you are still a felon. To be convicted and sent to prison, you are a felon.
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