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Same-Sex Marriage: Still a Tough Sell

tlynn Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 6:38 PM
And in states where we already have it, it has not faced a vote of the people. It's only activist courts that are keeping it alive.
Aura Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:19 PM
There's no reason to vote on the civil rights of minority groups. We don't do that in America, a representative democracy with a strong constitution.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:41 PM
The very question of these issues is whether this is a "civil right" at all (32 states have already said that it isn't, and the federal government hasn't said that it is.) This is not a settled issue, even though you falsely claim that it is.
Aura Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:49 PM
I didn't say it was settled, although the momentum is clearly moving in favor of equal legal rights for gays and lesbians. DOMA is dead; it's just a matter of cleaning up the carcass. Several states are close to legalizing same-sex marriage and even the harshest conservatives admit that hating gays isn't as attractive to conservatives as it used to be.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:49 PM
Make that 44 state have denied that homosexual "marriage" is a "right." Thirty-one have just made it official in their state Constitutions.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:55 PM
The "momentum" is in your warped imagination, Aura. Just because you sodomites have the entertainment and news media in your pocket doesn't mean that you can manufacture your own "truth" and "reality."

Thirty-one out of thirty-one times, most recently in May, Americans have overwhelmingly repudiated homosexuality with the strongest mechanism possible: in the very founding documents of their respective states.

Now, THAT is the truth.
Aura Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 7:56 PM
Once the US Supreme Court imposed equal legal rights for gays and lesbians on all states, these state constitutional amendments and discriminatory marriage laws will become the thing of history. A study in how a hateful majority can impose its personal beliefs on a minority, as has happened so often in American history, where hatred is so strong.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Sep 15, 2012 8:03 PM
No, the U.S. Supreme Court won't. Because their is a mountain of case law that would have to be ignored to issue such a tortured decision.

What will you say if DOMA is upheld by the top court?
For most Americans, the meaning of marriage is simply common sense. Marriage as the union of one man and one woman is at the heart of what most of us believe family should be. Even if we don’t all manage to live out that belief as perfectly as we would like, not everyone who opposes the redefinition of marriage to include homosexual couples has a detailed explanation for their position. Just because someone is divorced, for example, does not mean he or she does not believe in traditional marriage. Everyday folks understand that society needs strong ideals to bring out the...
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