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Trouble Brewing in GOP

Tinsldr2 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 9:28 AM
Wow, how wrong can he be in one article? Did the very conservative side of the party really stay home? I think not and no evidence said they did. If you were conservative you would have voted for the neighbors dog over Obama Reagan didn't win Because he got more conservatives to come out. He won because he I spired all Americans . But also the voting demographics were different However with the right inspirational candidates and a better ground game in 4 swing states we will win 2016.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 9:49 AM
By 2016 the ability of same sex couples to marry will be decided . It will be a molehill as it effects a tiny percent of the population and there will be no reason to make it into a mountain.

There is room for social conservatives in the GOP tent, as long as they do not make whacky statements like Murdoch and Aikins

But the main problems we face as a nation are fiscal, over regulation,border security , energy and. National defense. Those things effect our lives .
Dyadd Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 10:06 AM
Your dreaming. All of the social issues will remain very significant to the conservative base.

Add that to the repeated declarations of GOP leaders that they are determined to preserve failed government institutions and you have a party that is now very repulsive to a large part of its base.
Cal18 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 10:50 AM
The problem for the GOP is it CANNOT win without evangelical Christian support and they will not support a party that backs abortion or gay marriage. Unlike Democrats who can hold disparate groups together to defeat Republicans, the GOP is being fractured by the divide between evangelicals and fiscal conservatives like me. I oppose abortion but not for religious reasons. I don't care what consenting adults do in private but oppose "marriage" as it opens a Pandora's Box for polygamy and incest.

Unless the Right and far Right can make peace, the GOP will lose national elections for the foreseeable future.
JF4 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 11:50 AM
The problem is that the social conservatives have taken over the party. There is no big tent any more. Then you pick a candidate who has as much in common with the working man as Martin Gecko.

I didn't vote for Obama, but I sure didn't vote for Romney either.
JF4 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 11:51 AM
At this point you can't win WITH evangelical Christian support. If you pander to them, you lose everyone else.
Dyadd Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 9:46 AM
The "very conservative" did not vote for Romney.

But you are right - they would have voted for their neighbor's dog.
Cal18 Wrote: Mar 19, 2013 10:46 AM
I'd like the exit-polling data that supports that. I'm extremely (severely?) conservative and willingly voted for Romney as did every conservative I know. I understand my tiny world is very anecdotal but to say they "very conservative did not vote for Romney" flies in the face of reality.

Sure, some did stay home and "some" can swing elections. But several million who voted for Obama in '08 also stayed home in 2012. Considering how 68% of single women voted for Obama, it's not at all certain more conservatives turning out would have swung the election. Maybe, but not certainly.
For the first time, I am wondering about the long-term viability of the Republican Party. I say this not as an advocate of its demise or restructuring but as an observer of troubling signs.

The Republican Party is thought to be the institutional vehicle for the advancement of conservative policies, but for decades, the conservative movement has been frustrated with the party's deviation from conservative principles -- its refusal to live up to its decidedly conservative platform.

I believe that the disappointing results for Republicans in the 2006 elections and probably the 2012 elections, as well, were in no small part attributable to...

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