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Super Bowl or Gay Equality Bowl

Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:12 PM
And in most states does the gov deny those married couples equal treatment under the law? (you know the answer is yes) In those states where it is recognized under the law the federal Gov does not recognize that marriage and denies them equal treatment. So you deny it?
AKFred1 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:39 PM
Tins,
How do you define marriage?
AKFred1 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:38 PM
I did not say it is not equal, I said it is not the same. Define marriage. Then fix the problems that the definition will create if it does not mean what it has traditionally.
Marry two joints. Marry two parts. Marry two people? If you mean to change the definition, then there is more to change. I did not say y+3 is not equal to 9. I wrote y=6 6+3=9 then y+3=10 is not correct if you defined y=6 for all applications. If this is the way you define "y" then changing the definition creates a few problems. If two people want to spend the rest of their lives together, great. When it comes time to marry, then the definition should fit.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:28 PM
To camber


Well Tinsldr2, I'll ask again. Would you vote 'Yes or 'No' for unions
that would grant these gals identical rights as if they were married

Depending on wording I would vote yes most likely because it is a step in the right direction, then I would continue to advocate for the same marriage license be issued for all couples that are consenting adults
eddie again Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:27 PM
in most states those couples are NOT married under the law.

just because a government can legislate absurdly, irrationally and illogically does not mean other governments should do the same.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:26 PM
To AKFRED

So according to AKFred then, a civil union is not equal to a marriage

Which brings us back to the gov denying equal protection under the law.

If it is equal by definition as Camber said, then it is by definition A MARRIAGE

If it is NOT equal then we are back to discrimination.
AKFred1 Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:19 PM
You wrote earlier y=6 it does not matter y+3=9 or 6+3=9. My reply:

Actually it does matter how you write it. One is definitive and the other is not. You must first define y=6 for y+3=9 or solve for said equation. The individual or individuals must understand or have prior knowledge that y=6. It must be defined. If you tell individuals y=6 then write an equation y+3=10 then y does not equal 6. How are you going to define marriage then redefine it for other applications. It is between man and woman. A union or coupling is between the same connectors/connections.
Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 01, 2013 7:16 PM
Well Tinsldr2, I'll ask again. Would you vote 'Yes or 'No' for unions
that would grant these gals identical rights as if they were married?

Is it too much to ask that the focus of this Sunday be on football and not on “gay rights”? Will I be branded as a homophobic bigot for daring to make such a request? (I can answer that already: Yes!)

Last week, Fox News ran the headline, “Baltimore Raven linebacker [Brendon Ayanbadejo] uses Super Bowl spotlight to promote gay marriage,” reporting that, “Hours after Ayanbadejo’s team beat the New England Patriots on Sunday, paving their way to football’s biggest game, the three-time Pro Bowl special teams player wrote an email to gay marriage proponents asking how he could use...