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Rotten to the Core: Obama's War on Academic Standards (Part 1)

Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 5:06 PM
Earl29 Wrote: (4:55 PM) You have not addressed the Constitutional question. McCollum v. Board of Education Dist. 71, 333 U.S. 203 (1948) Court finds religious instruction in public schools a violation of the establishment clause and therefore unconstitutional. "Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. [n6] Neither can force or influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will, or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or nonattendance. Continued...
MadMaya Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 5:43 PM
"Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another." So would you be okay with all religions being examined in the context of, let's say, history? Religion, like it or not, is an intrinsic part of any society and therefore should be understood. When did we start banishing information that a few find uncomfortable from schools? Isn't the point of school to turn out informed students who are prepared to meet and understand the larger world? Again, religion is not some side issue of no import. It's everywhere and threads its way through society, culture, and history.
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 6:39 PM
Yes and I said not only would I be ok with it, But that it SHOULD be taught in the context of history, comparing the different religions, showing there role in the founding of our country, the role in abolition etc,

Teaching the comparative beliefs of the major religions and contrasting them and when appropriate their effect on history is something that SHOULD be done.

But saying X religion is better then Y is a subjective opinion. and even worse is a teacher telling my elementary school age son he is going to burn in hell for an in a classroom because he does not follow her religion.

Now in private life she can do that, and I can teach my children religion or send them to religious classes but a teacher should not do that.

Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 5:09 PM
No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called or whatever form they may adopt to teach or practice religion. [n7] Neither a state nor [p211] the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups, and vice versa.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0333_0203_ZO.html#333_US_203n7

Want me to address it further? Plenty of Cases.

Earl29 Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 5:14 PM
See, I told you they got it wrong.
Earl29 Wrote: Jan 23, 2013 5:17 PM
All you did was copy the decision. You did not address the Constitutional question.

America's downfall doesn't begin with the "low-information voter." It starts with the no-knowledge student.

For decades, collectivist agitators in our schools have chipped away at academic excellence in the name of fairness, diversity and social justice. "Progressive" reformers denounced Western civilization requirements, the Founding Fathers and the Great Books as racist. They attacked traditional grammar classes as irrelevant in modern life. They deemed ability grouping of students (tracking) bad for self-esteem. They replaced time-tested rote techniques and standard algorithms with fuzzy math, inventive spelling and multicultural claptrap.

Under President Obama, these top-down mal-formers -- empowered by Washington education bureaucrats and backed...