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How Gays and Women Get In Their Own Way

Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:09 PM
And where will he get this from? What fantasy land has this so called Civil Union? If he meets the right person and so desires he will get married
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 9:16 PM

Cambermeister Wrote: 57 minutes ago (8:16 PM)
Jersey. Our President recommended it. I guess France and Britain do something similar


Except two days ago France parliment approved Gay Marriage because what they had was not equal to a marriage

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21305150
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 9:08 PM
If you were a conservative you would Know rights can NEVER be gained.

Rights can be denied by Gov however. So the same sex couples in Washington state gained the ability to exercise their inate right to legally marriage and under state law the equal protection of the law but not the equal protection under federal law
Tinsldr2 Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 9:06 PM
Jersey? Really?

If two women get this figment of your imagination in Jersey do they get the same legal protection as married people in Jersey?

Tax breaks? Immigration ? Spousal IRA's?
Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:17 PM
Tinsldr2, last November Washinton State approved man/man marriage. Did homosexual couples there gain any rights?

yes or no please.
Cambermeister Wrote: Feb 04, 2013 8:16 PM
Jersey. Our President recommended it. I guess France and Britain do something similar.

Gays can be leaders. Women can be leaders. Without realizing it, I think gays and women inadvertently work against their own objective of equality when they force private organizations to support gay and female leaders.

As I wrote here, gays and women are already equal before the Constitution, which defines us by our humanity, not by our sexuality, and is silent on most personal matters like marriage. Furthermore, the more the federal government defines our rights, the less free, equal and human we all become.

Here is what generally happens when minority groups confuse social acceptance with equality...