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First notice how you selectively edited my post below? By leaving out the most important part you totally changed its meaning so it would fit your strawman argument. " Again If a supervisor of the DOJ stands up at work and daily calls Conservatives and Christians names, attacks tea paritiers and as a representative of the company makes a hostile work environment for conservatives, he is not breaking the law so his free speech is not violated. BUT IT DOES MEAN HE COULD (and should) Be fired for doing so. Second employment at a Gov organization is no more a right then employment at a Private organization. People's rights do not change if they work for a Private Company or the Gov. Rights are natural and can not be given nor taken away. But when you work for an employer, you follow legal company policy or if that is a violation of your beliefs work elsewhere. A policy to NOT discriminate or create a hostile work place for ANY employee is a legal policy. If you do not like that, work elsewhere. Nobody's Rights are being denied. But if you understood what is a right you would know that.
The court was right in both Romer and Lawrence. Just as it was right in overturning the Stare Decis of Plessy v Ferguson
Nobody anywhere says there should be no consequences to Free speech. And a Job is not a "right" Only a lover of Big Gov can say a job either public or private is a right. There is nothing illegal or unconstitutional being asked of the employee and therefore the employee either complies or faces consequences. That simple.
I know Ann it is difficult for people like Concealed carry to comprehend but i do try :)
What you do not get is what the meaning of free speech is. Since this in know way denies anyone Free speech you simply can not comprehend that. Again If a supervisor of the DOJ stands up at work and daily calls Conservatives and Christians names, attacks tea paritiers and as a representative of the company makes a hostile work environment for conservatives, he is not breaking the law so his free speech is not violated. But it does not mean he can not be fired for doing so. And in that case he should be fired. Go learn what free speech means, its limitations, and consequences of that speech.
What rights are being violated and why? You Do not have a RIGHT TO WORK Dread. it is not a right. If you want a job you follow organization/company policy, plain and simple while you are at work. Dont like it, work elsewhere..
LOL,, ROMER was not unconstitutional. It was ruled constitutional by the SC but nice try. The policy is totally different then saying who you must vote for, and has nothing to do with a persons behavior away from the office. There is no violation of free speech because you are free to make any speech you want and nobody is stopping you. But what makes you think there should not be consequences to your speech? Example suppose a supervisor was standing in front of employees condemning Christians, telling employees they better not support conservatives and making a work place hostile to any tea party supporters. Should that supervisor be able to do so under free speech? I say he should be fired in that hypothetical.
If you are an employee of DOJ and Sammy's supervisor then you should be fired yes. Why should you get the employers money if you won't follow the employers policy?
The DOJ is an organization. And the topic is about organization policy. There is no violation of free speech here which if you knew ANYTHING about you would agree with. It is completely constitutional and any court would back that up. I did read the column. If you did, you would grasp that is exactly what it is about. The organization/company/agency or department has a policy, The policy is to promote non-discrimination while in the workplace. It defines what is discrimination. If you are a supervisor, you either follow that policy or seek employment elsewhere. In no job, public, private non-profit, etc is it otherwise. If you work at Burger King You can not, while at work, say how much better McD's is. If you are working for a catholic church you can not promote Abortion while at work or they can fire you. If you have a gov Job, while at work you must follow the work rules. Just because it is for a gov agency does not change that. Off Duty, after work and not as a representative of the employer you are free to say what you want. While at work you are free to say what you want, but just dont expect to not be fired for it.
Earl, totally untrue that an employer can not force its employees to support its "LEGAL POLICIES" while at work. For example I am totally against Government bans on things like large soda's and other nanny state policy. But if my employer told me as a condition of my job to encourage my employees to not drink large soda's by displaying a poster that said so, then while on the company dime I would. The policy discussed here is to NOT discriminate, why that is a bad thing to many is hard for me to fathom, but apparently it is. If you want the Company dime, then while at work, follow company policy. It is legal and constitutional. If after work you want to express your belief in private then go for it. But while at work and representing a company your actions must be in accordance with company policy.
Oh and I have no idea what you are ranting about a class action suit
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