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Our "anti-discriminatory" employment laws are a mess and help explain why we have stagnated economically since LBJ passed his "Great Society" civil rights laws. My sympathy is with a right of an employer to fire any employee for any reason I could not agree more!! it is the same with a cake baker not wanting to sell a cake etc, It is their business and they should be able to run it free from Gov interference and let the market decide.
Hannah yes there is http://queenjamesbible.com/ I agree that starnes is often a liar bit he is telling the truth on that.
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 5:04 PM
richard 1311 Wrote: 1 hour ago (3:54 PM) Wedding cakes are not part of the wedding. \ \ We agree on that 100% this cake was not even for use at the wedding ceremony but for an entirely different day. The actual wedding had nothing to do with the law that the baker violated.
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 5:02 PM
I am sorry you will continue to defend a lie even when it is pointed out to you. That is your problem not mine. I have explained why saying it was about someone getting married when in one case there was not even a marriage involved at all is a lie. I can not make you accept that telling an untruth is a lie especially if he is in a position to KNOW it is not true. So either you are saying the author was to uninformed on the subject to know what he was saying is wrong, or you are fine with him knowing it was wrong and saying it anyway. I am sorry but I cant make you admit what you obviously see as a lie to be such. But the proof is straight forward.... Answer this simple question. Did the author write " Other examples involve a wedding photographer who was successfully sued for not wanting to photograph a same-sex “wedding”........ And was that what the photographer was sued for. Obviously the photographer was NOT sued for refusing to photograph a wedding and I provided proof. But go on and answer that question. Was that the reason the photographer was sued? Specifically for not photographing a wedding?
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 3:44 PM
No Richard I think YOU just proved my point. It was a commitment ceremony. a private ceremony with no legal weight that had NOTHING to do with any state marriage law (or any law at all). So why did the author lie and say it was a marriage. Thank you for agreeing with me that the photographer should NOT have had to film the commitment ceremony and that it was not a marriage. Thank you also for agreeing that the cake was not for use in a wedding. The couple was married in another state and the cake was not going to be used at that wedding. You confirmed my point nicely. Again we agree the baker should not have had to make the cake, and the cake was to be used at a reception/ party and not a wedding.
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 3:39 PM
Burden of Proof? How about this, CO does not allow same sex weddings. there proved. here is the list of states that allow same sex couples to get married. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_laws_on_same-sex_unions --- Yes it is a wiki abut any google search of same sex couples ability to marry in CO will confirm they currently can not For New Mexico December 19, 2013 ? The New Mexico Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that gay marriage is legal in the Land of Enchantment ,,, Notice the date it was legalized there ,,, here is a link. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/12/19/new-mexico-supreme-court-legalizes-gay-marriage/ here is the case: "On August 22nd, 2013, New Mexico’s highest court ruled against Elaine, stating “When Elane Photography refused to photograph a same-sex commitment ceremony, it violated the NMHRA in the same way as if it had refused to photograph a wedding between people of different races.”" Notice it was before a same sex couple could get legally married and notice it was a commitment ceremony which bears no legal weight or religious weight. http://www.forbes.com/sites/joshsteimle/2013/08/28/entrepreneurship-threatened-by-ruling-in-new-mexico-gay-marriage-case/ Proof? do some research. Read and Think! The author claimed marriages solely to make a point and dupe easily fooled people. He knew that in either case, the ruling had nothing to do with a marriage but all to much to do with bad civil rights laws. But he also knew it was a weaker sounding case to come out and say "I am against some civil rights law" and easier to say "I am against same sex couples getting married"
Well they can ask, (whomever they are) but there is no way in HECK Cochran is dropping out. That is unfortunate but it is not happening and the seat, like every other contended seat, is a must win.
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 2:33 PM
Acceptance of the “right” to same-sex marriage will mean that same-sex sexuality must be accepted as a good thing, and no one can oppose it or even think otherwise. Another LIE by the author. many people still think inter-racial and inter religious marriage are bad things and they are free to think that.
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Tinsldr2 Wrote: Jul 23, 2014 2:31 PM
Other examples involve a wedding photographer who was successfully sued for not wanting to photograph a same-sex “wedding” and a baker forced to undergo “reeducation” for refusing to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple’s “wedding.” The list goes on Why does the author need to tell the above lie? Why cant he tell the truth? because if he tells the truth, it destroys the very argument he is making. In NM, at the time the photographer was sued, it was illegal for a same sex couple to get legally married. So she was not sued over failure to take pictures of a wedding. Although it is a very popular FANTASY by some that it was. If the author told the truth, it would destroy the argument that same sex couples getting married interferes with their religious freedom. bad civil rights laws in the state of NM interfere with the religious freedom of the people who live there. It has nothing to do with marriage because the couple was NOT getting married. The same holds true for the baker in CO. It was illegal for a same sex couple to get married in CO. the cake was NOT going to be used at a wedding. Now the baker and the photographer, in my opinion, SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REFUSE service. Please pay attention to that if you want to respond to me. They SHOULD have been able to refuse service in my opinion. BAD CIVIL RIGHTS LAWS IN THOSE STATES, enacted by the people and their legislatures and not the courts are responsible for the government force used against the Photographer and the Baker. But those cases have nothing to do with same sex couples getting married, which does not effect YOUR religious freedom at all.
kids just graduating from college or Females whose kids have finally left home ......... WRONG... Just cause the kids left the home does not mean that females have the right to go out and work. A Gov job might keep them from being there when the MAN gets home from work. ................ Just wow WJF ..... kids just graduating from college or Females ........ WOW
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