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Guns and Pensions

Timgabz Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 11:28 AM
Development in tech is often leapfrog. The Germans had the Horton 226? And a whole load of new ideas they couldn’t bring to bear and weren’t complete. Given another year and resources WW2 would have been a very different ending. America had the Mustang and a whole load of aircraft that would not have been if not for UK design. They caught up with the help of friends. Friends who are not really doing more than jog along. Korea was a case in point of USA shutting up the shop and going home to find another war erupting. USA had brilliant pilots against superior soviet aircraft manned by substandard pilots. It was the man who made Korea. Especially as they were planning to disband the marines. War is fast and now down to moments. China...
Colonialgirl Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 5:16 PM
Sorry but again you speak from total ignorance; MOST of our aircraft were in development when the war began in Europe. Our bombers were FAR superior to the Lancaster of Brit fame, the only aircraft that came close to our fighters was the Spitfire.
Moonbat Exterminator Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 11:44 AM
The P-51 was an American design with lackluster performance due mainly to its Allison V-12 engine. When the Allies transplanted the brilliant Rolls-Royce Merlin enging from the Spitfire, a legend was born. Many of our pilots in Korea were WWII vets. The reason for their skill was that the USAF rotated pilots to the back lines after so many combat missions. Once in the rear echelon, they trained new pilots. Those new pilots, trained by combat vets were nuch better prepared than their Axis counterparts. The Germans and Japanese kept experienced pilots in the fray until they were either shot down or the war ended. The lack of trained pilots made a huge difference.
KPar Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 1:12 PM
All above are valid comments- the P-51 was a major advance in airfoil design (low drag, long range) that lacked performance at altitude until the "D" model incorporated the RR Merlin, with appropriate supercharger.

Pilot training and rotation meant our guys would get better, while theirs burnt out or got shot down.

But the Horton Bros. never did find a solution for the pitch instability problem, any more than did Jack Northrup, despite claims to the contrary. Modern FBW systems made the "span loader" design practical.
Luscious Lars Wrote: Feb 19, 2013 11:42 AM
The first Mustangs deployed used the Allison Aircraft engine, which had problems at higher altitudes in steep climbs. It would start cutting out. Once they shifted to the turbo charged Rolls Royce Merlin engine, the German planes could not match the Mustang's performance and quickly started losing air to air combat to the Mustangs.
A nation's choice between spending on military defense and spending on civilian goods has often been posed as "guns versus butter." But understanding the choices of many nations' political leaders might be helped by examining the contrast between their runaway spending on pensions while skimping on military defense.

Huge pensions for retired government workers can be found from small municipalities to national governments on both sides of the Atlantic. There is a reason. For elected officials, pensions are virtually the ideal thing to spend money on, politically speaking. Many kinds of spending of the taxpayers' money win votes from the recipients. But...