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So you are still saying that with all this information, so credible, that they allowed all these planes fly into peril? Thus the dudes allowing them to fly into peril are to blame as well? Read the reports yourself - UN-VERI-FIED VIDEO ETC ETC. The claim of a satellite picture of a launch has not been published. That would help credit the claim. As I have said - nil/nux/nothing etc / There is more circumstantial evidence of Santa Claus.
That is a valid theory with weight but not a conclusion. The propaganda and public reaction has muddied the waters. That is my beef with the situation. The systems the media have related to have to be specifically operated with intent to fire.
So they were all in peril?
Mistakes have occurred, Under duress they are more likely. Yes USA shot down the Iranian aircraft coming from a hostile area. Brilliant systems fail directly and with human error. Why did the missile system fail with those operating it? What were they hoping to shoot down? How do they select a target? The systems mentioned are sophisticated and controlled.
No not forget - understand. USA has very clever people but need to understand that the Syrians are not stupid and have their own clever people. As do the Russians. USA may have better ethics but evil still can be clever so running in shooting from the hip is a tad dangerous, particularly when you wrong someone who could be clever.
So you are thus implying that they knowingly let a civilian airliner fly into danger? Please provide the links to evidence. Kerry has spoken strongly about it but there is nothing but condemnation of Russia. Again I note that it depends largely on who posts the evidence.... The evidence was all posted afterwards?
That is a good comment, no need to leave anyone off the list. No I am not blaming anyone. I am surprised that the West has had such a passion for nailing Russia over the past 1/2 decade for everything but China is all QT. My % are biased towards Ukraine or the Separatists.
It depends on where it hits and the damage it does. In the late '70s two Viscounts were shot down by Zipra using Strela shoulder launched missiles. The ones being bandied around by the media are big ones and a near miss with proximity detonation would be able to down a 777. These were sophisticated and would most likely have hit directly.
At face value the evidence points to virtually everyone depending on who posted it.
What % would anyone apportion to the chances of who shot the plane down? Who dunnit? Ukraine%? Russia%? USA%? Germany%? Separatists%? ISSIS%? North Korea%? China%? This is an event that can cause a major war and we have idiots waving accusations around like light sabers but nothing material, not even a pic of a missile trail. Heck someone must have that!. All there exists is a wreck that showed the plane came apart well before impact. The same day there were many faked videos as well as one that showed the plane coming down (problem with two extra engines).
Russian propaganda vs American Propaganda? I think that is the problem, where is the truth? Is the truth relevant or if exposed only when convenient? Western Media has been caught lying too many times for people not to question even when they happen to be totally right. When to the Russians tell the truth? Well - I don't know them that well.
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