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The Malicious Mangling of the Virgin Mary

tibby2 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:31 AM
For those that doubt the existence of a creator that always was there I have but one question: "where did the matter and energy come from from which the big bang emanated?" Don't look to me for logical, reasoned answers. I have none. I can't prove either thing that opposing sides take on faith. For me it is as much of a leap of faith that the stuff of the big bang was always there as it is to believe in the Creator.
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 12:52 PM
But doesn't that just raise another question in that what created the creator? And if you're going to say that the creator is eternal, then why can't that apply to the universe as well? Carl Sagan made this argument years ago and I think it still carries weight to this day.
traitorbill Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:54 AM
Either consciousness created matter, or matter created consciousness. If matter created consciousness, there could be no miracles.
Marc_H Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:36 AM
they will come up with some God-less answer
traitorbill Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:55 AM
As Freud said "Words were invented to deny."
Elisabeth26 Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:34 AM
I've often wondered that myself.
AmyDB Wrote: Nov 16, 2012 11:50 AM
It's a good question to ponder Elizabeth.
To me it takes more "faith" to believe that the matter from which the "big bang" came from has no explaination as to it's origins.
Then you have the "faith" that the big bang came about thru chance breaking all the odds known to man or Deity.
The third nail in that lack of Creator coffin is the "faith" that life came about thru chance let alone evolved to where it is now.
A Christian can be crushed gazing at the picture of Mary standing at the foot of the cross, watching her beloved son suffocate and die. But in that vision, she stands there for hours, patiently enduring her suffering. For two millennia, she has been a role model for Christians, a woman who practiced obedience in the most difficult of human circumstances, with fervent hope for what this sacrifice will offer all mankind as it struggles with sin.

This is why it seems so hard to reflect that vision of patience when black-hearted "artists" practice character assassination on the Blessed Virgin...