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Both Sides Must Give Ground To Avoid Fiscal Cliff

Thomas274 Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 12:28 PM
Both sides "giving ground" is what's gotten us to this point. There is a spending and not a taxing problem. The GOP represents the tax payers and the dems the tax leeches. There is little common ground.
Texas Chris Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 2:28 PM
One side wants to hit our hand twice with a hammer. The other want's no hit.

So they compromise and hit our hand once.

Compromise.
Beeblebrox Wrote: Nov 19, 2012 3:23 PM
Agreed. The problem with House leadership is that we have had wimps in that job for some time. Boehner is a disgrace. If he can't come to the table saying "our starting position is a balanced budget for 2013" then he doesn't know how to negotiate. You don't start but agreeing that the president won the election so he can have what he wants.

Personally, if I see my representative (Woodall of GA) vote for Boehner when the 113th convenes, I'll vote against him in 2014. I've had it with Boehner and his limp-writes running about behavior and his go-along supporters. We needed a strong leader like Ryan or even Newt. Boehner already has telegraphed that he intends to give away the farm.
In his first formal press conference in months, Barack Obama showed that getting re-elected can increase a president's confidence and combativeness. He staked out tough stands on several issues, especially on the looming budget negotiations.

Looking ahead to the "fiscal cliff" on Dec. 31, when the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts expire and sequestration cuts government spending sharply, Obama demanded $1.6 trillion of increased revenues as part of any budget bargain.

That's twice the number he and Speaker John Boehner agreed on in the grand bargain talks in the summer of 2011.

Those talks fell apart when Obama telephoned Boehner and raised his demand...