You know Buck, I lived in Asia for years. Expensive energy is deadly for folks. The poorest people cannot afford to cook their meals with propane when the cost of propane reaches 20 to 40 percent of their monthly income. As a result - they cut down all the trees in the area so they can EAT. High fuel prices here in the USA are high fuel prices around the world.

Wind and Solar are sales fronts for natural gas. The "installed capacity" is no where near the actual output and they both need "real" natural gas generators to back them up when the wind stops and the sun goes down. So these create a market for natural gas. They create a market for high margin priced electricity. install more wind and solar and force up the price of natural gas. We need REAL competition in the energy market. We need nuclear. People will loose money in the energy market if Nuclear is let loose. But other businesses and consumers will win.

I agree that the pipeline should be built. But I view this as a short term stop gap measure. The Future belongs to the greatest energy source known. Atomic Power. We knew how to use this in the 1950's and 60's We can improve on it. If the amount of money that was going to be spent on the pipeline were invested in building nuclear power plants we would not need the pipeline. Why should we cripple investment in Nuclear through the heavy handed way over regulated NRC. The NRC runs on FEES collected from existing power plants. Not a single tax dollar is used. But Harry Reid's hand picked Chairman blocks everything new.

We can cut the Gordian knot of "Climate Change" by promoting Nuclear power. The "waste" alone is worth millions of dollars if it is allowed to be used. We could heat neighborhoods, run factories, in fact run our whole society on Nuclear power. The heat can be used in steel mills and auto manufacturing parts plants. We can use the electricity to power almost everything. We can chemically bind carbon and hydrogen into liquid fuels. Why do we even need to import anything?

It is amazing to me that both conservative and liberal thinkers seem to revel in the high price of energy. By ignoring, passing over the VAST amount of energy in Uranium and Thorium, that is literally, physically millions of times the energy capacity per pound of coal, methane and liquid fossil fuels. It is the safest industry we have ever created and can be made even simpler and easier to use. Where is the conservative call for Nuclear power? Are we saying we have to be pro-fossil fuel to be conservative? Do we believe the lies about Nuclear power being dangerous? Does our opposition to government over regulation stop at the door of the NRC?

The Oil Sands in Canada would produce even more fuel if they used small nuclear power plants for refinery heat rather than burning the fuel itself to heat the sands to produce more fuel. We know how to do this and there were about 5 different designs before the NRC in the past 4 years that have all been put on hold.

@ Redneck48, We can produce local oil from coal using heat from a nuclear power plant. Our vast coal reserves can be tapped to cleanly produce high quality diesel and gasoline, even methane at a cost of less than 1/2 the current price per barrel of oil. We could export that oil and drive down the price of both Oil and electricity using Nuclear power. I am for Cheap energy. The current drive toward using Natural Gas to produce electricity means that this "untapped market" will rapidly drive up the price of Natural Gas in the near future.

As it replying to your demagoguery.

Yes, you wish torture on someone... amazing! Hypocrite!

I have helped to ordain women in our denomination. In fact, the Holiness tradition was ordaining women before feminism was ever thought of. We were leaders in the movement to free women and get them the vote. However, understanding that in Christ there is NO male or female, no jew or gentile is not the same thing as oppression. Submission implies equality. I submit to someone who I am also able to lead. I am glad to follow Godly leadership regardless of gender.