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The Teleprompter Speaks Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 10:56 AM
Fact is, gun purchases are already well-regulated. You can't buy an automatic weapon without a special permit from the ATF. There are a lot of technical, insider debates on what constitutes an assault rifle, but let's make it clear, the public can't buy an actual assault rifle without that same permit. They can buy civilian versions of assault rifles and other rifles that look like assault rifles, but functionally, these firearms are no different from semi-automatic hunting rifles. I have yet to hear any gun-control arguments that would actually have stopped the Newtown shootings. Not a one. Licensing drivers doesn't stop unlicensed drivers from driving and more than gun free zones prevent criminals from carrying a gun into one.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 3:23 PM
Do you really think that skinny, wimpy little POS would have been able to illegally purchase those firearms in a rich Connecticut town?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:27 PM
Only a complete fool believes that a "wimpy little POS" would have difficulty illegally purchasing those firearms even in "gun free" DC.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:34 PM
Really?! Where is he going to buy illegal guns in Newtown?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:42 PM
History demonstrates that wherever prohibition exists, supply will make itself available in the market. That I am not specifically acquainted with the geography of Newtown is irrelevant. It's like the old argument from ignorance about government action where it is supposed that if the government didn't do something it wouldn't be done because the private sector (it is imbecilically argued) lacks the resources.
slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:43 PM
They were NOT his guns. The gun store reportedly refused to sell to him. His mother, now dead, provided the weapons. Should we outlaw adults living with their parents in case the mother decides to arm the kid?
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 2:25 PM
registering autos doesn't stop autos from being stolen and used in crimes.
And nobody prosecutes a car owner for what some criminal did with his auto after stealing it.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 2:36 PM
Yes, there is absolutely no difference between a vehicle and a firearm...
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 3:58 PM
Yes, there is absolutely no relevant difference between a vehicle and a firearm. Both are tools that serve a specific and useful purpose. Both can be deadly if misuused but the freedom of their use yields benefits far greater than their restriction.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:04 PM
One is for transportation, one is for inflicting physical harm. A car can be used to inflict physical harm, but a gun cannot be used for transportation. Another big difference: how may sociopaths have driven cars into schools and used them to murder children?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:18 PM
Actually, firearms can be used for hunting, target shooting, etc. There have been numerous cases of individuals deliberately harming others (including children at a bus stop) with vehicles, Your "big differences" amount to literally nothing at all.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:26 PM
I would love to hear the "etc". Inflicting physical harm also does apply to animals (and no, I'm not against hunting or anything of the sort). Numerous cases of people running down over a dozen children with cars? Why didn't I ever hear about this?
FletchforFreedom Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:37 PM
Try this brand new thing called a "search engine". Only incompetence could possibly explain such lack of knowledge on your part.
slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:41 PM
Okay, arsenic is a poison. Outlaw it--it kills. What other purpose could it possibly have? This is a really, really stupid argument. Most guns NEVER are used to kill people, only dinner in some cases. Sometimes not all. Okay, vegans can complain, though dinner can be obtained by other means. If killing is the only purpose, why do people who NEVER killed anyone or anything own many guns. If they have NO other purpose, explain why someone spends money on a gun and then does not use it to kill anything? You can't because you know not of what you speak.
Does it count how many school buses are hit by drunk drivers??????
slk Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:42 PM
Cars kill animals all the time.....
A American Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:44 PM
actually it happens frequently, if you watch the news.Every year there is a city whose people on sidewalks are run down and killed.
Ever count the number of deer on the side of a road, so yes a car can kill.
A firearm is for protection, liberals look at firearms as a offensive tool. Gun owners look a them as a defensive tool.
NovusOrdoSeclorum Wrote: Dec 27, 2012 4:55 PM
Haha, you're the expert. You tell me.
gjmlb Wrote: Dec 30, 2012 12:05 AM

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