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Former.............yes, Red's smoking habits did predate any strong anti-smoking sentiment ....but......my point is that IF society is as anti-cigar as Prager whines about, then any CURRENT discussion about Red would focus on how bad of a person he was for smoking cigars.....and that simply is NOT the case. It's a non-issue
Flaming..............I actually doubt that ANY liberal medium would react. I would suggest that anyone with a knowledge of NBA history look at the coaching career of Red Auerbach. He's still remembered as being one of the best coaches in league history. It does get mentioned that he lit up a cigar during the game itself when he felt that the game was, in effect, over. Today people chuckle at that habit of his but I have NEVER seen or heard any condemnation about the fact that he was smoking a cigar.
JFK.................so the point you're making is that Prager et al are the modern version of the cold war Soviets in terms of getting upset about our decadent language????
pasa..........why can't someone subscribe to both of those opinions..ie that it WAS dumb for Garcetti to make the comment and it is also, on some level, dumb to get all worked up about it? Regarding the second point, I'm now going to go into Prager mode......."this is just like the right.They just don't understand real evil. People are getting slaughtered by truly evil individuals and groups all over the world and what does the right get all incensed about? That someone used a word they consider to be naughty" (end of impersonation.....and anyone who thinks that that comment was pointless and unfair should appreciate the fact that this is what Prager does on an almost daily basis)
HR..............I didn't hear that show........did that incident happen during the day or at night?
Richard........................are you saying that, if an athlete or actor makes religious comments that are considered noteworthy for whatever reason, no one is allowed to comment on that? Of COURSE they would be allowed to do so.............hell, remember just a couple of weeks ago when Bergdahl's father made the (Islamic) religious comment? Are you saying that no one commented on that at all?
I didn't get all that worked up about this, but, by and large, I appreciated the general point Prager is making. But, with Prager being Prager, he ALWAYS has to keep talking until he makes an absurd comment. His comment about the cigar definitely falls into that category. I very often wonder if prager just makes those stupid comments for effect or if he REALLY believes them. If Garcetti had lit a cigar and announced it as being a victory cigar does Prager REALLY think there would have been more fallout than what resulted from the beer and f-bomb? The crowd would have cheered (the cigar) but otherwise it would have been a COMPLETE non story. But, with Prager being a cigar smoker, of course, he always has to toss the "victim" card into the pile.
Ahad.......Tebow was a unique situation and, as such, I'm leaving him out of the discussion for now. BUT..............in term of athletes (including participants in team sports and boxers), Academy Award winners etc etc if they "humbly thank God" there is virtually no fall out at all....it happens ALL the time.
imevery..........I definitely think you're right about how immigration is playing a large part in our growing population....but that's always been the case.
imeverywoman..............excellent post. I appreciated every point you made, but, particularly the one about couples in their 20's having kids in order to be taken care of when they get old.......at that age, you're 99% certain that you never will be old:)
Darby..............but, if we really were a "dying nation" wouldn't our population be going down instead of up?
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