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Invincible Ignorance

The Chopping Block Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 8:19 AM
Seems to me there are three components to the violence we are trying to stop: 1. Mental impairment (illness) of the individual 2. Lifetime of "violence de-sensitation"--violent video games, movies etc 3. Access to guns We need to discuss all three components. For example, just talking about gun control is not the answer. In New Zealand, with very strict gun control, when someone goes off the deep end and starts stabbing or hatcheting people, the cops come on the scene and shoot the person. Sounds good until you think, gee, do we really want to have our cops shoot our mentally ill teenagers with "intermittent explosive disorder". You can say yes, until you think back on all the public outcry every time a cop shoots a teen.
Wooster Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 9:02 AM
> when someone goes off the deep end and starts stabbing or hatcheting people, the cops come on the scene and shoot the person.... do we really want to have our cops shoot our mentally ill teenagers with "intermittent explosive disorder<

If he's stabbing or hatcheting people then yes, please shoot.
Mother of 4 -- the original Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 8:42 AM
There is only one component -- the evil inherent in all humankind.

The answer is to restore society's clear distinction between objective right and objective wrong and to stop worrying about "being judgmental" and start actively condemning wrongdoers and actively praising the righteous so as to effectively form people's moral character from a young age.
The Chopping Block Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 8:22 AM
Keep in mind that when a cop shoots a teen with a knife, there has probably been no mass killing to justify the cop shooting. So the public will just scream, why did you have to shoot him.

To nail my final point home, all three components must be addressed with equal fervor. All you anti gun people, I hope you can find the words like "censorship", institutionalization, in your anger about guns, You seem to want the arts to be able to have all the freedom they want, but none of the responsibility of their actions.
Jay Wye Wrote: Dec 18, 2012 8:49 AM
"when seconds count,police are minutes away."
Police are never around to prevent these crimes.

Must every tragic mass shooting bring out the shrill ignorance of "gun control" advocates?

The key fallacy of so-called gun control laws is that such laws do not in fact control guns. They simply disarm law-abiding citizens, while people bent on violence find firearms readily available.

If gun control zealots had any respect for facts, they would have discovered this long ago, because there have been too many factual studies over the years to leave any serious doubt about gun control laws being not merely futile but counterproductive.

Places and times with the strongest gun control laws have...