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Big Business Is Not Conservative

the Black Baron Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 10:17 AM
The combination of big business and the state is fascism.
wmou Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 12:15 PM
Only if the politicians are corrupt.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 12:33 PM
w, what do you mean?

What does it mean for you to be a conservative?

How was Bush a liberal republican?
BonnyB Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 2:58 PM

wmou Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 8:15 PM
Bush expanded the size and power of the central govt. Typical of all liberals. He intervened militarily in the affairs of a sovereign nation. Typical liberal.
No Child Left Behind is the most liberal legislation since Medicare and more destructive. All conservatives know the feds have no authority to interfere in public education and when they do, they always make things worse.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 30, 2012 9:36 AM
w, you have made a good case that Bush was not a true conservative.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:09 PM
fascism is right wing ideology
pastorial Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:21 PM
nazism is right wing ideology.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:21 PM
socialism is left wing ideology.
pastorial Wrote: Oct 28, 2012 1:21 PM
communism is left wing ideology.
wmou Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 9:16 AM
Yet all four have more in common than they have differences. All have powerful central governments that control most aspects of society. How can that be if they are opposites? The right supports limited power for the central govt.
BonnyB Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 9:47 AM
pastorial Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 10:01 AM
w, small limited govt is a liberal jeffersonian idea which the Right adopted/adapted

Did George W Bush believe in small limited govt? NO! eg Homeland Security.

The Federalists Washington, Adams and hamilton were conservatives

who believed in s strong central govt.

libertarians believe in limited govt. But cons are not libertarians!
BonnyB Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 10:52 AM

wmou Wrote: Oct 29, 2012 12:19 PM
Bush is a liberal republican. I never liked him and almost never agreed with him on any topic. I believe in limited govt and everybody who knows me says I'm very conservative. Most republicans are not conservatives. If they were, I'd join their party and vote for them most of the time.
Stephen Moore, of the Wall Street Journal's editorial board, reported Friday that the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate from Arizona, Congressman Jeff Flake, has little support among some powerful big businessmen in Arizona:

"In his razor-tight race for Arizona's open Senate seat, Republican nominee Jeff Flake -- a six-term U.S. congressman -- recently met behind closed doors with about a dozen leading businessmen in the state, including two powerful and respected CEOs: real-estate developer Mike Ingram and former Phoenix Suns owner Jerry Colangelo.

"Both businessmen supported Mr. Flake's opponent in the Republican primary (Mr. Flake won by 40 points), and both are...