Oh yeah, sure. It's "moderate" to explode the National Debt with Non-War spending. It's "moderate" to move toward State Control of Health Care. It's "moderate" for the FedGov to take over the Banking and Auto Industries. It's "Moderate" to "skyrocket" (YoBama's term) our Energy Bills with Cap and Kill! It's "moderate" to Raise Taxes, it's "moderate" to Lick our Enemies' boots, It's "moderate" to sell out our allies, it's "moderate" have a plethora of out and out COMMIES in your Do-It-Yourself Politboro. It’s “moderate” to put the safety of our Children in the hands of NAMBLA. It’s “moderate” to have that bastion of “moderteness” ACORN dictating Policy in the Oval Office then shopping Federal Loans and Tax Evasion advice to Child...

Whistle past the Graveyard all ya want, tHorny.
If you can take comfort from getting destroyed in VA, rejected in NJ, being BARELY able to defeat Mr. Rodger's Nerdy Cousin in NY23 with BOTH the Dumbolcrap Party Establishments, Commieqr Straight and RINO Commieqr Lite, ganging up on him, AND going 0-31 in the Homomarriage Department--by all means, hang on to your binky and blankie.

I would point out to you, though, that the REAL scary thing from YOUR point of view is that Subsidizing a Fake Independent in NJ to try and Sabotage the Conservative DIDN'T WORK and DIDN'T WORK BADLY.
That grinding sound you hear, tHorny, is your SS ObaMaoTANIC getting ripped though the GUTS by the Iceberg.
Enjoy your sunbathing on the...

You go on: “There is charity (voluntary giving out of ones religious values) and the activities of social contracts (safety nets and such) as there are both morals and ethics.”

Some cogent defense of State FORCED Redistribution of WEALTH as either Moral or Ethical OR a “social contract” is required here, LefTurtle! If you are parsing the difference between Morals and Ethics you have a tough row tohoe if you are going to maintain it is the SAME distinction between Faith and Politics.

“The fact is the church seldom "renders unto Caesar what is Caesar'”s because the American Church is not subject to Caesar's power.”

This is neither a Christian Doctrine, in fact it is Hetrodox, "be subject to the Governing...

Which moves you to Straw Man 2 that Religious Constitutional Conservationists don’t REALLY believe that Statism is non-christian BECAUSE: “The religious right is constantly trying to force their morality on others through law”.
And your cogent support for THAT a priori argument would be.....?
What SPECIFIC “morality” are you referring to and HOW, SPECIFICALLY, is it being FORCED on YOU?
Here I suggest Stephen Strehle’s “The Separation of Church and State” Hunting House (on Amazon) for a reasoned defense of Christianity in the Public Square.

You continue, with some cogency: “The fact is Christians have been incredibly interested in politics for their entire history because they recognize their dual citizenship in the...

Old, but necessary.
Regarding CAcaBrian's 2:03 to DanielMO on Separation of Church and State interface.

One of 3 parts.

Ok, Niebuhr Jr. what’s your Theologian Street Cred? For that matter who needs to be shot for claiming to have taught you Logic and Rhetoric?
Let’s start with your Straw Man 1: “If you actually believed that [that State Forced Collectivism is not Christian–DanielMO at 1:48]...you would stay clear from the secularism that is politics all together.”
And your support for that premise would be...????
Avery Dulles (recently deceased) a brother of John Foster Dulles, Statesmen, of Dulles Airport, says in his “Models of the Church” that the Straw Man Model you put in Daniel’s mouth–the “separation”...

Read your blog.
Good stuff.
Mick

And you’ve had that HOW long now? And you’ve done exactly WHAT with that so far?
Big Picture or BigfART?
Mick

Good Tactics, but Strategic Blindness, Gunny.
I remind you what happened after RR left office. I remind you of what happened to Newt’s Revolution and the Contract with America. I remind you of WHERE we are NOW at the Socialist ABYSS and HOW we GOT here.
Note the difference in Strategic Consequences between the Strategic Aims of WWII and those of Korea, Vietnam, Desert Storm, Iraqi Freedom, Afghanistan. TOTAL DESTRUCTION vrs. “CONTAINMENT”–your banishment to the wilderness for 20 years.
Unless the UNDERLYING CULTURE is DESTROYED and its adherence WIPED OUT,
THEY ALWAYS COME BACK!!
If they got us HERE, to THIS, how far will the Tide RISE NEXT TIME and the TIME AFTER THAT? How many bullets do we dodge until Liberty is DEAD...

No argument from me.
There ain't much I can say in rebuttal.

I'm willing to give Mitt a bit more rope for he hangs himself.

mick

ARE? 2 House Seats> Two Governors?
First, let the Thread be reminded that The Big Mick affirms Hayek’s debunking of the whole “Left-Right” Linear Political Spectrum Model as a commieqr LIE!. In this he follows L.Neil Smith and other Libertarians writing in the 70s and Tom Wolfe in the Millennial Issue of Time where Wolfe pointed out that Stalin and Hitler were Fraternal, if Fratricidal, Socialist Statist TWINS occupying an identical and coterminus place on the Political Spectrum.
Ergo “left” ain’t “left” he is COMMIEqr!
I take my stand [ATT CHRIS THE EXTREMIST (not) 1:58]...
I take my stand at Home Plate with the Founders, “lefties” and “progressives” and Moronic Mythical “Middle” “Moderate” Commieqr lites have all...