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Is it Time to Throw in the Towel?

ThasicAlambra Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:00 PM
Wow. With all the issues facing our country, monetary collapse, skyrocketing unemployment and taxes, a congress that willfully ignores the Constitution, decades long wars killing our young people etc etc etc, and gay marriage is what you focus on? Really? I am a hard line conservative but I really don't give two figs about gay people. As long as they are willing to keep their preferences in the privacy of their own bedroom fine by me. This is why the Republicans can never win elections for any significant time frame. Too many conservatives want to focus on minutia while the country burns down around their ears.
Dave M Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:42 PM
You don't give two figs?. You should. All the other problems you mentioned are a part of the problem. All are symptomatic of social collapse- whether you want to confront the issue or not.
And as for your "keep it in the bedroom". What planet have you been living on They haven't"kept it in the bedroom" for decades. They are NOT demanding special treatment- they are demanding we abandon our morals and adopt theirs.
What we really have here is a liberal posing as a conservative. Pretty easy to spot. We see them all the time.
pdanbridge Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:32 PM
"As long as they are willing to keep their preferences in the privacy of their own bedroom fine by me. "

A, it's a sexual orientation, not a preference.

Believe me, I would have PREFERRED to be straight, given how much cr*p I daily have to put up with.

B, who are you to tell others to keep their partnerships in the closet? The nerve and narcissism really irks me.

It's not like we're going at it right in front of you.

Who ARE you people?
Anominus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:48 PM
"Orientation" is just a self-important, homosodomite euphemism for "preference."

"Believe me, I would have PREFERRED to be straight, given how much cr*p I daily have to put up with."

Non-argument. People often choose bad behavior, even when they are aware of the harmful consequences - drug abusers, criminals, etc. Or perhaps you believe the rapist is also a victim of "orientation?"

"B, who are you to tell others to keep their partnerships in the closet? The nerve and narcissism really irks me."

Another non-argument. We don't care what you do in private - that doesn't mean you are free to preach your falsehoods and perversions, rewrite the law to suit your behaviors, or redefine marriage without opposition.
Jack2894 Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 4:30 PM
Of course you care what he does in private. BAsed on what you write about, I think you pretty much obsess over what gay folk do in private...gay men at least.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:01 PM
Welcome back, Jack@$$! For a while there, I thought you may have forgotten how to breathe, again... Obviously, it's still very difficult for you to think and type at the same time.
Anominus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:12 PM
The old "look over there!" argument - seriously? Most people are able to hold opinions on multiple subjects, and many of them can even multi-task. You should look into it - it's a very useful skill!
DCM in FL Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:06 PM
"As long as they are willing to keep their preferences in the privacy of their own bedroom fine by me"

They aren't.
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:24 PM
But how obstructive it is to your daily life and how does it interfere with your day-to-day business?
pdanbridge Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 2:33 PM
You need to grow up and get over yourself.

The world doesn't evolve around your personal delicate sensibilities.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 3:03 PM
Why don't you ask the numerous bakers and photographers who are being threatened with legal action for not wanting to have anything to do with gay "marriage?"
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 3:11 PM
And how many bakers and photographers have been directly affected in proportion to numbers that aren't? Do you have any hard numbers to back this up? And unless you're in that industry, does it really affect your life to that extent?
Anominus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 3:17 PM
"And how many bakers and photographers have been directly affected in proportion to numbers that aren't?"

Even if it were only one, it would still be a huge issue because it undermines the concept of freedom of speech and freedom of association.

"And unless you're in that industry, does it really affect your life to that extent?"

Constitutional freedoms effect us all, regardless of our "industry." If Constitutional rights can be denied to one, they can be denied to all.
traitorbill Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 3:31 PM
See homosexual education in schools. See homosexual marriage. See lack of information that homosexual men die 30 years sooner than heterosexual men. See disproportional amount of research money being directed at AIDS. See politicians pandering for homosexual votes. See media ignore atrocities performed by homosexual men. See the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual remove homosexuality from it's list of sexual disorders...
HeraldOfGalactus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 4:04 PM
"Even if it were only one, it would still be a huge issue because it undermines the concept of freedom of speech and freedom of association."

But would it undermine the concept any more than any other civil rights laws that forbid discrimination? I don't see why this deserves more attention than the concept of providing equal protection under the law? I agree that constitutional freedoms affect us all. But again, how does homosexuality infringe on those freedoms?
Anominus Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 4:14 PM
"But would it undermine the concept any more than any other civil rights laws that forbid discrimination?"

Discrimination because of sex or race - both of which are innate, unchangeable characteristics - is prohibited according to the Constitution. There is no Constitutional authority prohibiting discrimination on the basis of a behavior like homosexuality. Homosexuals already have equal protection under the law, but they do not have the right to redefine marriage to suit their whims.

You tell me - how does it effect you if the government requires you to change your definition of marriage? To an employer, particularly with the looming insurance fiasco, that could make quite a bit of difference.
Beethovens10th Wrote: Feb 11, 2013 5:49 PM
It has been many more than is publicized. In cities where "non-discrimination" ordinances have been enacted by force from homo-activists, entire populations are bullied into pretending they think that "gay 'marriage'" is okay.

Republican leaders have capitulated, pro-family pundits have caved, and gay activists have announced that their struggle for equality is just about over. Is it time for biblical conservatives to throw in the towel?

What a ridiculous thought. Why in the world would we do that?

I’m fully aware that:

· Newt Gingrich recently announced his belief that same-sex unions are “inevitable” and that Republicans must accept this if they want to win future elections.

· Pro-marriage leader David Blankenhorn has recanted his opposition to same-sex “marriage,” saying “the time has come for me to accept gay marriage and...