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Stuart95: (continued) US Government source. The average cost for K-12 education in the US is $12k/year per child. http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=66 $10,297 (unadjusted) in 2007- 08 (neglects cost of capital outlay and interest payment on debt) $12k with other costs included. Illegal aliens and their families also overburden the social safety net, adversely affecting our poorest citizens. This is evident in the schools, subsidized housing and medical facilities in states with high illegal alien populations. How about letting the wages increase to the legal labor rate, so the workers can actually raise a family? Fix & fully implement E-Verify. Fine and imprison employers who employ illegal aliens.
Stuart95: Here are some supported numbers with links. Maybe, you should do a “little” research on the topic. FYI: Of the approximately 11.5 million illegal aliens currently in the USA approximately 1 million are children (plus an additional 4.5 million US born). It is currently estimated that 8 million illegal aliens are currently employed illegally. The Pew Hispanic Center is a good source for information. They are a “Pro-Immigration” group. Source: http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/12/01/unauthorized-immigrants-length-of-residency-patterns-of-parenthood/ This would lead to almost 4 million school (K-12) age kids. This is approximately $48B/year for education costs ALONE. (continued)
Izzy: Throw in similar penalties for the illegal employers and the problem would disappear almost overnight. Any employers using an improved (with SSN crosschecks) E-Verify would be exempt from prosecution.
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Terribly Frank Wrote: Sep 28, 2012 2:15 PM
Faultroy: Yes, Ms. Chavez does not allow reality to taint her opinion. She conveniently fails to mention the Unlimited H-2A “temporary worker” visa program. Unfortunately, businesses like to use illegal labor because it allows them to drive down wages and working conditions. US taxpayers are currently forced to subsidize each illegal worker’s salary (about $5/hour) to cover their social costs including long-term costs for their US born children. Fix & fully implement E-Verify. Fine and imprison employers who employ illegal aliens. Deport ALL illegal aliens quickly, humanely and efficiently. Enforce the LAW!
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Terribly Frank Wrote: Sep 28, 2012 2:07 PM
Ms. Chavez is insane if she believes that the US needs to import more poverty. Simple law of “supply & demand” states that if we have a shortage of workers in an industry the wages will go up. In reality, we have seen wages decrease because these industries are flooded with illegal labor. The businesses love it because they can transfer the hidden social costs (approximately $5/hour) of their “cheap” illegal labor to taxpayers.
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Terribly Frank Wrote: Sep 28, 2012 2:07 PM
Big O7: Sorry that you are having problems, but why is it so difficult to obtain a visa from Mexico? You realize that about 40% of our illegal aliens came into the US on legal visas and simply “overstayed” (illegally). So who is at fault? The US with one of the MOST generous legal immigration policies, or Mexicans (58% of illegal aliens are Mexican) who continuously abuse our immigration laws? Pew Hispanic Center Facts: 1) The U.S. today has more immigrants from Mexico alone (12.0 million) than any other country in the world has from all countries of the world. 2) Some 30% of all current U.S. immigrants were born in Mexico. The next largest sending country—China (w/ Hong Kong & Taiwan)—accounts for just 5% of the US’s 40M immigrants.
The H-1B visa program is not designed for “the Best & Brightest”. It is designed to provide wage competition for US citizens in technical fields. If these occupations were in such high demand, we would have seen a strong increase in their wages. The wages have been flat to slight increase. Companies see the H-1B visa as a way to drive down wages and avoid the minimal retraining of existing technical workers. The requirements to pay the “prevailing” wage are completely ineffective. Low-skill labor has seen dramatic wage decreases as their labor market has been flooded with new (legal & illegal) immigrant labor. We need to get firm control of our immigration to make the USA stronger (both taxpayers/citizens & corporations).
Mr. Barone: “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” happened back in 1986 with the great Immigration Reform & Control Act. It had TWO parts 1) a ONE TIME ONLY amnesty for illegal aliens who had resided in the US for several years. 2) a promise to STRICTLY enforce immigration laws and workplace identification of legal residence. The first part legalized several million previously illegal aliens. The second part was ignored by Democrats eager for votes and Republicans eager for subsided “cheap” labor (social costs shifted to taxpayers). Why would any SANE person want to consider a new “Compromise” after being cheated by the last one? Fix & fully implement E-Verify. Fine and imprison employers who employ illegal aliens. Deport all illegals.
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