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Obama's Rhetoric

Tacitus X Wrote: Jul 19, 2012 5:43 AM
Good points by Sowell. Also, why doesn't this "owing" work both ways? Under Obama's "logic" shouldn't the government return the wealth it has appropriated since it was private individuals' and firms' inventions, work, and production that fund big government? Didn't private firms provide the materials, power, and funding for the roads? Edison invented the practical light bulb, not Woodrow Wilson. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and others brought computer power to the masses, not Obama and Nancy Pelosi. Businesses and individuals in the market made the clothes and grew the food that Obama and his family consume. Where's Obama's gratitude for what is owed to private enterprise? Shouldn't he pay back what he owes?
SteveL2 Wrote: Jul 19, 2012 8:37 AM
It's more than that.

Just like Elizabeth Warren keeps claiming that private enterprise can't exist without the beneficence of government, I say that government can't exist without the facilities from private enterprise:

Government buildings were built by private contractors
Government buildings use electricity, phone service, Internet service, all from private contractors
Government bureaucrats use office supplies like paper and pens and paper clips all bought from private companies
I'll bet Obama has a smartphone and laptop, both built by private companies

So maybe government should give back more to private companies.
SteveL2 Wrote: Jul 19, 2012 8:37 AM
It's more than that.

Just like Elizabeth Warren keeps claiming that private enterprise can't exist without the beneficence of government, I say that government can't exist without the facilities from private enterprise:

Government buildings were built by private contractors
Government buildings use electricity, phone service, Internet service, all from private contractors
Government bureaucrats use office supplies like paper and pens and paper clips all bought from private companies
I'll bet Obama has a smartphone and laptop, both built by private companies

So maybe government should give back more to private companies.
Ann272 Wrote: Jul 19, 2012 5:53 AM
A megalomanic cannot be expected to behave with gratitude. He thinks we "owe" him our unquestioning allegiance. After Chrissy Mathews tribute to the perfect man,this is looking more like Kim Jung every day. On that speech about how "we didn't build ik, somebody else did" I really thought he was coming unglued, and I have NEVER thought of him as a fine orator but a bombastic narcissist.
Ann272 Wrote: Jul 19, 2012 5:57 AM
oops. not "ik" but "it.." Though ick works for me.
Barack Obama's great rhetorical gifts include the ability to make the absurd sound not only plausible, but inspiring and profound.

His latest verbal triumph was to say on July 13th, "if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own." As an example, "Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Let's stop and think, even though the whole purpose of much political rhetoric is to keep us from thinking, and stir our emotions instead.

Even if we were to assume, just for the sake of argument, that 90 percent...