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Operation Hubris

Surtr Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 8:45 AM
Jonah Goldberg lecturing on hubris. That's rich. The man who preaches that America is so "exceptional" that we should invade the world and flood our land with 3rd Worlders. Of course, the fool honestly thinks Naziism and Fascism were liberal movements, so expecting him to say anything insightful is setting yourself up for disappointment.
Henry VIII Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 9:04 AM
Since Jonah Goldberg wrote the book on Liberal Fascism, you are talking out of your azzze. Nazism was merely an extreme, ugly form of fascism; the principles of liberalism and fascism check off the same boxes.....deal with it.
Surtr Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 10:19 AM
"Since Jonah Goldberg wrote the book on Liberal Fascism" -- Henry VIII

Yes, Jonah wrote a stupid book trying to reimagine Naziism and Fascism as leftist movements. They were not. They were collective movements of the right as Communism was of the left.
Old Carpenter Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 10:27 AM
Yes, Naziism and Fascism are to the right of Communism, but that doesn't make them right wing movements. 900 is closer to 0 than 1000, but that doesn't make it a negitive number.
dan17 Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 11:40 AM
The more extreme Socialism gets, the more Fascist it gets. Look to history for answers.
Alex_P Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 1:13 PM
I am probably wasting my time, but in the slight chance that Surtr wants to know something...
Read Jerry Pournelle's doctoral thesis from 1963 (or just look at the chart at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart).
Left-vs-right division is too simplistic, that's why seeming paradoxes of coinciding priorities of communists and fascists.
Raymond, (Ret) Wrote: Feb 15, 2013 9:03 AM
1. Goldberg does believe America is exceptional.
2. He does not think we should invade the world
3. nor flood our land with 3rd Worlders, (whatever that means)
4. he doesn't think Nazism and Fascism were Liberal, he thinks they were socialist.

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