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Social Conservatives: GOP Can't Live Without Them

surfcitybob Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:13 PM
After running McCain and then Romney, the Republican Party lost this Christian conservative. I ended up voting for the Libertarian candidate. This is sad because the Republican Party has the only platform that a Christian can support. The democrats advocate killing babies, before they are born, homosexuality, and other things that no Christian can be for and still be a Christian. However, I do not think it is our job to judge the world and tell others how to live their lives, that is God's job, not ours! So, while I can not vote for a Democrat because of their anti-Christ platform, I find that the Republican Party doesn't want me either.
Paul08 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 6:32 PM
Well it is God's job to judge and judgment is definitely coming and is here in the USSA.
Seljo Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:21 PM
You are right. I mentioned this, tangentially below. Probably not seen.

As for abortion, I think Romney's position is the right one. However, I KNOW a lot of social conservatives, which are single issue voters in many cases, were not convinced of Romney's conviction on the issue.

I believe Romney, who I supported after the nomination, was the main problem.
1) He failed to gather his base. (he ran a general/centrist campaign from the get-go)
2) He failed to go for the kill in the 2nd-3rd debates.
He was ahead in the polls after the first debate. Why? He was strong, confident, and bold. He LOOKED like a leader. After he was blindsided by the "moderator" in the 2nd debate, he never recovered that confidence.
Seljo Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:32 PM
When I say his abortion stance is "right" I mean strictly in a political sense. allowing limited exceptions is a politically viable compromise.
Curt119 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:15 PM
"This is sad because the Republican Party has the only platform that a Christian can support."

McCain was divorced and remarried but that didn't bother you as a Christian????
Seljo Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:19 PM
McCain, nor anyone else is pushing books about "My 3 step mommies" into kindergarten. Books about homosexual parents ARE being pushed into the schools. JFYI.
Curt119 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:23 PM
But McCain has two wives. Thats perfectly ok.

"Books about homosexual parents ARE being pushed into the schools. JFYI."

Maybe because there are homosexual parents out there. I know some and they do a good job. JFYI.

And at least they get off their butts and do parenting for kids, unlike the millions who are murdered by abortions every year. JFYI.

Seljo Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 3:30 PM
hey a win-win. Ban abortion, and let gay spouses adopt otherwise aborted kids?

Yah.

I don't deny that too many ppl let schools "raise" their kids. It is a problem. However, just because my house i son fire doesn't mean I will throw gasoline on it.
Reginald10 Wrote: Nov 27, 2012 4:54 PM
Of course it bothers me; and Newt's 3 marriages bothered me too. But as Christians, we are to consider the log in our own eye, before the splinter in the other fellow's eye.

Besides, are we not to repent of our wrongs? If it turned out to be wrong for Newt and Mrs. Newt #1 to be married, then of course that should have been put right by dissolving the marriage. As Jesus said, what you bind on Earth will be bound in Heaven, and what you loose on Earth shall be loosed in Heaven. So if a marriage binding, needs to be loosened - well, that's allowed.

IMHO, anyway; not speaking as a clergyman...
One of the largest elephants in the GOP's post-election room is the fate of Christian and other social conservatives. Party honchos can't just wish this problem away -- or, maybe they can.

There has been increasing hostility toward Christian involvement in politics, and the animus hasn't been solely from the left. To be sure, Democrats have taken the lead, demonizing conservative Christians as science-challenged scolds who don't care about women's "reproductive rights," but there is plenty of antipathy from certain elements within the Republican Party, as well.

Many establishment and some libertarian Republicans have long looked upon Christian conservatives with mild, condescending...