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Obama Retreats After High Water Mark

SugarLandSteve Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 11:11 AM
Semper Fi, brother! "Give them the AMMO full velocity!"
Colonialgirl Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 2:53 PM
Myself,I liked the M-14 I had while in Basic and then while stationed in Korea 1967-1968;
15 months.
Pistol Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 2:18 PM
...gas operated, air cooled, semi-automatic shoulder weapon, if I remember after 60 years.

You don't think 7.62 x 51 can achieve 2650 fps at 200 yds?
Original Saepe_Expertus Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 2:11 PM win the PRIZE! It is indeed John Cantius Garand's Finest invention! It is the standard M-1...not the M-1A. The official designation usually goes "Rifle, .30 caliber"
Pistol Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 12:33 PM
Good morning, Harold133.
The Garand is designated .30 gov''t '06, if I remember correctly. Metric designation is 7.62 x 63, MV 2950 with 150 grain civilian ammo, usually referred to as .30/06. Springfield.

7.62 x 51 is available, as you note, in the M1A, M14, also the FN Fal, H&K, Cetme, AR-10, and assorted clones. The civilian designation is .308 Winchester.
Harold133 Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 12:07 PM
Pistol Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 11:32 AM
7.62 x 51 out of at least a 22 inch barrel.
Original Saepe_Expertus Wrote: Mar 23, 2013 11:17 AM
SugarLand LOL!! See if you can deduce which weapon THIS ammo fits. " 150 gr. FMJ, 2650 f.p.s. at 200 yards, impact at 2700 Ft. Lbs.

Call it over-reach, hubris, arrogance; call it what you will, but for all practical purposes Obama’s presidency and experimentation in transformative politics is over.

Oh sure; we’ll have four more years of strident rhetoric, of evasions, of ruses and stratagems.

Obama’s nothing if not persistent.  He wants to be the guy who transformed America -in fact, moved it on the path toward the socialist, state-sponsored model of Europe.  He might even be the guy who recognizes that only under a “dictatorship of the proletariat” or some modern version of it, will African-Americans enjoy anything like real power as...